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The H
3rd June 2004, 20:56
From In The Know Magazine

OAKS - 1 MILE 4 FURLONGS - EPSOM - FRIDAY JUNE 4TH

ALL TOO BEAUTIFUL - All has gone to plan so far with victories in a maiden and a listed event in Ireland over ten furlongs on her only two starts to date before going straight to Epsom. Was comfortable both times although debatable that she only beat fairly useful opposition and her price is more a reflection of her Ballydoyle connections and her impeccable breeding (full sister to Galileo) than proven form on the racecourse. Unproven on fast ground but remains an interesting prospect. (4/1)

CRYSTAL - Fluent winner of a ten-furlong maiden at Windsor in April and Brian Meehan is convinced she will prove to be top class. However, will need to improve massively on the bare form shown there and has little time to do it if she is to figure here. (25/1)

KISSES FOR ME - Would be a surprise were she to score. Difficult to make a case for. (66/1)

NECKLACE - Stayed on well to take the Group One Moyglare Stud Stakes at the Curragh last year, which gave plenty of promise for the future. However, was very disappointing on her reappearance in the Guineas, even allowing for the fact that she is likely to prove better over longer trips. Remains a filly of great potential and cannot be dismissed here but needs to dispel doubts hanging over her after her Newmarket flop. (10/1)

OUIJA BOARD - A decent juvenile who came third in a Newmarket listed event on her final start last year, connections were always looking forward to a better three-year-old season and she did not disappoint when running away with the Pretty Polly Stakes on her reappearance. Handles any ground. First rate claims. (4/1)

PUNCTILIOUS - Finished just behind Sundrop in the Ascot Fillies Mile before becoming her stablemate at Goldophin and a possible run in the Musidora Stakes at York should show how well she has wintered and improved. Plenty of stamina on the dam's side and a facile win in the Musidora Stakes gives her a solid chance. (5/2)

SUNDROP - Came to prominence when flying to finish second after a blocked run in the Ascot Fillies Mile behind Red Bloom last year. Subsequently transferred to Goldophin for the winter where she reportedly worked well and reappeared with a fantastic second to Attraction in the 1000 Guineas where she was again doing all her best work at the end. Given that there is also plenty of stamina in the pedigree it was no surprise to hear that she headed straight for the Oaks. Boasts the best form on offer, looks very progressive, almost certain to stay and proven on most surfaces except soft, she is clearly the one to beat. (2/1)

Selection: SUNDROP

Danger: Punctilious

nocoat
3rd June 2004, 20:57
The fourth one is a pearler :sorted:

:rolleyes:

ChessingtonBee
3rd June 2004, 22:02
It's the smallest Oaks field for years.

Still Coronation Cup has more horses than usual which is good. A Group 1 race should have more runners than you can count on the fingers of one hand.

Hope the rain stays away when I am up on the Hill.

Can Frankie break his duck on Saturday and land a Derby at last?

Ash Bee
4th June 2004, 11:07
I don't think Frankie will do it

Fallon will win two years on the trot

I might put a score on North Light to win
Prediction
1st North Light
2nd American Post
3rd Gatwick

The H
4th June 2004, 11:10
:abuses_his_status_smilie:

you can start a 'derby' thread if you wish :D

finchbee
4th June 2004, 11:58
From In The Know Magazine

Selection: SUNDROP

Danger: Punctilious

I would agree with that

Vicky B
4th June 2004, 12:32
Any tips for tomorrow's Derby H??

The H
4th June 2004, 13:21
working on it....

The H
4th June 2004, 13:47
MY PICKS FOR TODAY - for fun

1.45 If Paradise
2.15 Dumaran (anything goes in this race)
2.50 Compton Bolter
3.30 Systematic
4.10 Sundrop
4.50 Tizdubai, Gonfilia (Exacta)
5.25 Secret Place

The H
4th June 2004, 13:48
1.45 NIght Prospector just won at 33/1 :eek: :dodgystart:
2.15 Uhoomagoo 7/1
2.50 Persian Lightning 11/2 - lots of baulking in this..
3.30 Warrsan 7/1
4.10 Ouija Board 7/2
4.50 Gonfilia 11/10f

Walshie
4th June 2004, 14:28
I agree with Sundrop, but I fancy Counsels Opinion in the 2.50.

Gee Bee
4th June 2004, 16:34
1.45 NIght Prospector just won at 33/1 :eek: :dodgystart:
2.15 Uhoomagoo 7/1
2.50 Persian Lightning 11/2 - lots of baulking in this..
3.30 Warrsan 7/1
4.10 Ouija Board 7/2

Losing a few bob today then? :D :wave:

swr22
4th June 2004, 16:44
I would just like to smugly say that I predicted Ouija Board on the original thread in here, but got her after she won the Pretty Polly so had her at 12/1!! Needless to say I am a very happy man!
I have got Percussionist at 33/1 for tomorrow, so fingers crossed. A bit of rain would help, but he will handle good ground too. With the Derby I find that it is always wise not to back glorified milers. If they have won at 1m2f+ then fine, but the likes of King of Kings and Cape Verdi never went onto anything. You need a genuine middle distance runner who will battle and stay every yard. With a bit of overnight rain to dull some of the others' speed, Percussionist can do just that. Snow Ridge is overpriced, and I fear the danger is North Light. Pukka and Gatwick might be two nice outsiders for a bit of fun.

The H
4th June 2004, 16:57
Losing a few bob today then? :D :wave:

not a chance..... nasty nasty Epsom...

JTofBFC
4th June 2004, 20:39
MY PICKS FOR TODAY - for fun

1.45 If Paradise
2.15 Dumaran (anything goes in this race)
2.50 Compton Bolter
3.30 Systematic
4.10 Sundrop
4.50 Tizdubai, Gonfilia (Exacta)
5.25 Secret Place

Hmmm, sufficeth to say sticking a pin in the newspaper would have been an improvement then.

Any chance of some sort of ratings scale for those that are genuine tips and those that are just as likely as if our granny had picked them??

Maybe this forum should carry a health warning ("wealth warning") eg Tips can come last as well as not in the top 3...........!!

The H
4th June 2004, 20:57
Hmmm, sufficeth to say sticking a pin in the newspaper would have been an improvement then.

Any chance of some sort of ratings scale for those that are genuine tips and those that are just as likely as if our granny had picked them??

Maybe this forum should carry a health warning ("wealth warning") eg Tips can come last as well as not in the top 3...........!!

yer... 'just for fun'... ;)

as i will be at Upson Downs tomorrow (prob) i will be sticking my pin on the course with other GPGers...

i wouldn't bet anything on the Derby meetings as its such a nasty course, there are no hot selections.

ChessingtonBee
4th June 2004, 22:02
No joy for me in the big races.

Mr. O'Brien's horses did not do the business.

Still it was a nice day - good for pikey-watching - and the Wetherspoon's in Epsom town centre was not too busy.

If you are going tomorrow (and not part of some junket) remember to bring your own booze. There will be a lot more people and anyway who wants to pay £3 for a tin of Fosters ?

swr22
5th June 2004, 17:31
The rain didn't come and Percussionist lacked the early tactical speed to maintain his position. One to follow on softer ground and must have first-rate claims to the Leger. North Light won well, though, I thought. The complete failure of Snow Ridge adds another name to the list of doubtful stayers who get trumpeted every year.