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The H
4th June 2004, 21:01
form In The Know magazine

DERBY - 1 MILE 4 FURLONGS - EPSOM - SAT JUNE 5TH

AMERICAN POST- Showed plenty of pace to land the Grand Criterium at Longchamp and the Racing Post Trophy at Doncaster last year and has carried on this spring when taking the Prix de Fontainebleau before his first target of the French 2000 Guineas. However, has plenty of stamina in his pedigree and his style of running suggests the extra half-mile should be well within his range. Criquette Maarek-Head is unusually bullish about this colt's Epsom chances and boasts the best level of juvenile form. Drying ground a worry. (8/1)

COMING AGAIN - Barry Hills' maiden is surely out of his depth here. Second to Motive in Windsor maiden on latest effort. Would need to improve over two stone to score here. (200/1)

ELSHADI- Not seen out since disappointing behind Fantastic View at Ascot last October. A big ask of this one to win here and would be a near-miraculous training performance. (40/1)

GATWICK - Has been a revelation in handicaps this season and is clearly progressing but it would be a surprise to see him land this big prize. (20/1)

HAZYVIEW - Just seems to get better and better and hard to discount as each time the bar is raised, he rises to the task. (50/1)

LET THE LION ROAR - Pulled well clear of the rest of the field when defeating the useful Top Seed at Newbury in April over ten furlongs and should be even better at this trip. Needs to improve again to figure here but an intended run in the Dante should prove more informative. As a half-brother to Millenary, he may even prove best suited by the St Leger. (12/1)

MASSIF CENTRALE - Looks a banker for a run-of- the-mill maiden but looks totally outclassed here. Would be a major shock. (200/1)

MEATH - Stayed on well when just outbattled by Grey Swallow on his reappearance and has since scored at The Curragh, but seems to be a little down the pecking order at Ballydoyle. (20/1)

NORTH LIGHT - Readily won a Goodwood maiden on his second juvenile start and has plenty of stamina on the dam's side. Was always likely to make a much better three-year-old and won Dante Stakes well enough, showing a nice turn of speed in the process. A clear cut chance. (11/4)

PERCUSSIONIST - The 'Dark Horse' of the race if you like, as it's difficult to assess just what he's achieved this season. If you take the form literally, his ten length defeat of Hazyview was astounding and it wouldn't take much improvement to see him figure here. (7/1)

PUKKA - Form of maiden win could amount to anything and is clearly well above average but would need to improve considerably to win. (20/1)

RULE OF LAW - Second in the Dante and has solid each-way claims as there is surely more to come. Must be on the short-list. (16/1)

SALFORD CITY - Proved connections' high opinion of him correct when landing the Greenham but that race may have been a little substandard and seemed outpaced when only sixth in the Guineas afterwards. Clearly has ability to win more Group races but may prove, like his half-brother Salford Express and stablemate Norse Dancer, to be best at the intermediate ten furlongs. (7/1)

SNOW RIDGE - Finished very strongly to land the Royal Lodge Stakes at Ascot last autumn and no surprise that the Dewhurst proved too sharp afterwards. Switched from Marcus Tregoning to Goldophin over the winter and proved his homework was no fluke when a running-on second in the 2000 Guineas on his reappearance. Impossible to crab that form and stout breeding on the dam's side reinforces the impression that he will relish this extra distance and must be a leading candidate. (9/4)

Selection: PERCUSSIONIST (ew)

Danger: Snow Ridge

exactonian
4th June 2004, 22:38
Backed Snow Ridge when Yeats was still in the race and will be at Epsom tomorrow to back again, but the way Suroor's two run in the Oaks today.....

Hoping Suroors got an earlier runner to go by

exactonian
4th June 2004, 22:41
also whispers down here of Hills horse running for a place

The H
4th June 2004, 23:03
e/w chances imho - (its what my systems have http://www.brentfordalways.org/images/bambs/puke.gif )

2.00 Master Marvel 4/1f
2.30 Adoration 11/2
3.00 Passing Glance 25/1
3.30 Ptarmigan Ridge 33/1
4.20 Salford City 7/1
5.05 Putra Sandhurst 16/1
5.40 Jajanjay 20/1


Passing Glance 20/1 winner :wave:
Jayanjay 20/1 e/w

The H
4th June 2004, 23:04
North Light for me... for the Derby

exactonian
4th June 2004, 23:49
Have taken note of above. Off to Cyprus Sunday and what should be Cypriot pounds is still in Sterling in my wallet.

Memo to self.....leave some at home :rolleyes:

Hurricane Floyd
5th June 2004, 07:02
for what its worth, ive been looking into a few trends (won lto, won at 10f and other dreary stuff) and reduced the field to 2; north light and meath. of the two my selection will be north light with a cheeky e/w saver on meath. and of course the rev fc.

good luck :sorted:

nocoat
5th June 2004, 10:09
right, will shamelessly copy you lot and back north light! thanks :wave:

Im off for a fun, sun and beer filled day at Epsom :bound: :beer: :beer: :wave:

ChessingtonBee
5th June 2004, 10:29
Difficult to predict.

I have'nt had the winner since Lamtarra.

I would not go for any favourite on short odds. May go for Meath to place and American Post, but will wait till they are in the parade ring.

Gypsies used to chalk an overnight prediction on a well in the Amato pub. They seemed to get it right as often as most. Benny The Dip was a notable example.

What bright spark decided to run the Greyhound Derby on the same day?

I like to attend both. Not sure I will have the energy /funds after a day on The Hill.

swr22
5th June 2004, 17:33
the winner won well. Ground too quick for Percussionist and the other two placed horses ran cracking races. The Irish derby will be interesting- Let the Lion Roar could be closer on a flatter track like the Curragh

Greenholme Bee
5th June 2004, 21:47
Fantastic SP too...7/2.
Detori could never win on his, too long a race especially with the steep hill finish.. Thankfully all the housewives money went on it and pushed North Light out in the betting..

Now for a Derby Double, Trap 4 at Wimbledon tonight..

nocoat
6th June 2004, 16:51
good days gambling....

had screwdriver, north light and a place on an 8/1 shot :bound:

think i made about a score altogether, nothing major...

nice to see this forums chief moderator getting eaten in the pub later on as well lol :thumbs: ;) :eek: :kiss:

Wee Dave
6th June 2004, 17:35
nice to see this forums chief moderator getting eaten in the pub later on as well lol :thumbs: ;) :eek: :kiss:

Strewth!

Bad Vicky :nono:

Vicky B
7th June 2004, 18:42
I was too busy drinking far too many green shots and having red wine spilt down me :D

Jimbee
7th June 2004, 21:56
nice to see this forums chief moderator getting eaten in the pub later on as well lol :thumbs: ;) :eek: :kiss:

Hope he/she was better than the specimen he pulled in Leeds.

exactonian
10th June 2004, 15:51
e/w chances imho - (its what my systems have http://www.brentfordalways.org/images/bambs/puke.gif )

2.00 Master Marvel 4/1f
2.30 Adoration 11/2
3.00 Passing Glance 25/1
3.30 Ptarmigan Ridge 33/1
4.20 Salford City 7/1
5.05 Putra Sandhurst 16/1
5.40 Jajanjay 20/1


Passing Glance 20/1 winner :wave:
Jayanjay 20/1 e/w


Other than Salford City; backed all these.
Passing Glance 40 to win at 25s :cool: Now getting pissed in Cyprus.
I thank you