FA Cup run 70/71

[moribee]

Fond memories of Workington Away FA Cup 3rd round 1970/71 season.It was the day of the Ibrox disaster and we won 1-0 on a freezing cold day in a place which felt like another country.Brian Turner was my idol and i had been on the juice for 3 days starting New yeas Eve.Those were the days,no Political correctness crap,call a spade a spade and just go for it with my scarf tied round my jeans belt.....oh to be young

[roddy]

was this the year Colchester beat Leeds? If so I recall the special train from Ealing Broadway to Hull. We were leading one nil (Bobby Ross) until the last knockings then Hull who then had Terry Neil as their player manager scored two late goals one of which was following a foul by Ken Wagstaff on Gordon Phillips. I remember the heads going down after the first Goal and the eventual result was then inevitable. The worst of it was that Brian Turner missed a sitter which would probably seen us through. This game also stands out in my mind for one of the two most violent incidents I have ever seen at a Football match when Hull supporters waylaid Brentford fans at Hull station and I vividly recall the state of a Bees fan face after he had had his face smashed against the Kerb.

[moribee]

Yes it was and we beat Cardiff away in the 4th round on soaking wet day.......Brian Turner hit post in second half but I missed that as I was having a pee......mate of mine got nicked at Hull as he was spat on by Hull fans he took 3 of them out and got charged with ABH which he got 3 months suspended.Me and another tried to get him away from the police but we got pulled as well but they let us go after all the trains had gone.It was a gutting day but great memories

[roddy]

Believe that Jackie Graham scored the goal at Cardiff. The police have not changed that much. My brother a couple of years ago went on an away trip to Southend for which they had organised a boat trip down the Thames having had a few he was singled out by Southend Police and kept in the cells until there was no chance of getting home. I beleive a friend of his Bernie(from Virginia Water) stayed until they let him out.

[roddy]

Believe that Jackie Graham scored the goal at Cardiff. The police have not changed that much. My brother a couple of years ago went on an away trip to Southend for which they had organised a boat trip down the Thames having had a few he was singled out by Southend Police and kept in the cells until there was no chance of getting home. I beleive a friend of his Bernie(from Virginia Water) stayed until they let him out.

[Bashbee]

I only bring this to the top again as it is by chance the 30th anniversary of the match at Cardiff. Great day out, game played in two inches of mud, rained all day. Picked up the footie special from Ealing Broadway. God knows how my parents let me go at just 14. I think there was around 23,000 and Cardiff were going well in the old 2nd division. First goal from John Docherty with the old free kick move of ball played in, Bobby Ross flick on and Docherty finished off. We scored a few goals with that move that season I recall. In the second round we beat Walsall with a similar move but Roger Cross put that one away. Jackie Graham scored the 2nd at Cardiff when he intercepted a back pass that stuck in the mud. Also remember Alan Hawley getting pulled down in the second half for a blatant penalty but not given.
I think I may have muddled the goals up and Graham scored the first but who cares.
I just think I may have been too young to appreciate it. Excellent stuff.

[Idaho Bee]

Bashbee I can confirm that John D did score the second goal. I remember it well, as me and my mate had been set upon by the Cardiff supporters (some things never change!) and we spilled onto the pitch. My brother called us from the seats section and we climbed up and joined him. To this day I'll remember the ball being stuck in the mud about 6 inches from the goal line and John (my idol) sidefooting it in the net.
Brentford (4th division then I think) had beaten a top 2nd division side.

Sidenote on the Hull game, which was equally exciting and the Bee's were unlucky to lose : Does anyone who travelled back on the train (about 2000 people I think) remember a group of lads walking through all the carriages, all the way back, singing "Win or Lose we're on the booze, do da, do da"? That was us.......

I think we pissed a few people off as I remember them trying to sleep.....

That was a great cup run that gave the Bee's plenty of publicity and the success starved fans plenty to cheer about.

Then there was the away cup game (league cup?) against Norwich. Tremendous crowd from Brentford and a fantastic atmosphere in a covered corner behind the goal. I couldn't believe the noise we made. Brentford made a game of it until the second half and I think we lost 4 -1 but deserved more. Remember the home fans chants of "your watching first division" and the bees reply of "sheep shaggers" ringing out loud and clear.

Another great night...........

[Idaho Bee]

Forgot to mention the blow up plastic woman at the Norwich game in the Brentford end!!!
Being passed from hand to hand......

Now who brought that??????????

[Wise old Bee]

The train from Cardiff took bloody hours to get back and seemed to follow a bizarre route all of its own. A few seasons before we beat Hull City in a League cup tie 3-0 in front of 12,000 with Mansley scoring twice before losing 0-2 to Norwich in front of 17,200 but the Cardiff match was the first big cup victory I had ever seen. In fact, since I first came to GP in 1966 we have only got past the third round three times, 1971,1989 and 1996 so we really do have to savour these moments. Swansea are still the only top division side we have knocked out of a cup in all my time.

[Baz Bee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Idaho Bee:

Sidenote on the Hull game, which was equally exciting and the Bee's were unlucky to lose : Does anyone who travelled back on the train (about 2000 people I think) remember a group of lads walking through all the carriages, all the way back, singing "Win or Lose we're on the booze, do da, do da"? That was us.......

I think we pissed a few people off as I remember them trying to sleep.....

That was a great cup run that gave the Bee's plenty of publicity and the success starved fans plenty to cheer about.

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I was at both games. On the Hull match I think you'll find that there were about 6 or 7 footie special trains that ran from Ealing Broadway that day due to the number of fans we took to the match.

What I remember is the tortuous route the trains took through London to get on the correct line for Hull. On the way back a few of us decided to jump out of the moving train as it passed through Stratford station (east London) and get on the central line which was much quicker to get back to Ealing Broadway.

BTW Idaho Bee, where are you located? I was in Coeur d'Alene last summer and may be back in Idaho this comming summer.

[steve bee]

still remember that fantastic day beating cardiff, am i right in thinking we beat gillingham 2-1 at home in the 1st round ?.
Alex dawson scoring the winner 2 goals in the last 2 minutes?.

[Idaho Bee]

Baz Bee I live about 400 miles south of Coeur d'Alene, in the great Metropolis of Boise, ID. Give me a buzz if you are going to be down this way. Up the Bee's.....

[8 Bee]

Both the Cardiff and Hull trips were memorable for the great atmosphere on the trains. Although there was much drinking and celebrating British Rail officially commended the club on the behaviour of its suporters.

The Cardiff trip included a train right to the ground whilst the trip to Hull included a tour (twice)of a Stratford coal yard. We jumped off the train at Finsbury Park on the way back.

The Hull supporters were none too friendly so we must have been very brave or stupid (we were young ok) as we brazenly walked into a pub in the centre of Hull with our colours and Cockney accents on display. The beer was disgusting.

As well as a foul on Phillips, their 2nd goal was prececed by their orange-eating goalkeeper McKechnie taking about 25 extra illegal steps before launching the ball upfiled.

[RoyBee]

Idaho Bee - remember the 4-1 defeat at Norwich well for 2 particular things:

1. Batesy saw the blowup doll bouncing around in the Brentford end and was p&ssing himself pointing it out to the other players

2. Didn't Robert Fleck miss a sitter at our end, get loads of stick from us and then start taking the p*ss by doing situps in the 18 yard box?

[roddy]

I rember the game v Gillingham we were unluckily 1-0 down and Alex Dawson score two goals in the last knockings. HE was due to sign for us during the ensuing weeks but in the end went to Corby Town.

The journey to and from Hull was bloody awfull which for me was made worse a I had to get the 7am train to Caambbridge the next day.

[NW USA Bee]

Idaho Bee, why are there so many Micro brews in Boise? Was there a couple of years ago and it seemed there was one on every downtown corner!

[Idaho Bee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Pittsburgh Bee:
Idaho Bee, why are there so many Micro brews in Boise? Was there a couple of years ago and it seemed there was one on every downtown corner!</font>

Have no Idea Pittsburgh! The north west in general (e.g. Seattle, Salt Lake City, Portland etc) all have lots of very local microbrews. Guess it's cause we can't stand that Budweiser / Miller / Coors crap!!

Make sure you let me know next time you're over this way.........aren't many (any?) Bees fans in Boise.......

[Savannah Bee]

I remember the Cardiff game I was 14 I think, and couldn't get anyone to go with me so I went to the pictures with some old sort. I didn't feel to bad as the chance of at least keeping the score down seemed pretty remote. But I can remember to this day standing in a rain soaked Uxbridge high street looking at the scores through the TV rental shop window and not believing the score. I think I stood there so long in shock the old sort got fed up and walked home! I did see the Gillingham game and the last few minutes rate as some of the most exciting I've ever seen at GP.