Ref Watch

[Brentford 4 Life]

Hope this is in the right place, thought after today it would be good to have an ongoing thread to comment of referee's performances. Some refs no matter how hard you try to forget, you just cant (Andy Durso ) but with this thread we can monitor their performances (good and bad of course) over time.

Andy Woolmer - Went Looking for fouls that hadnt happened and in the process missed those that had occured, or just got them wrong. Sending off was right as i have just seen on SSN but he even went about that the wrong way. A good ref is a one that is in the background but this little fella tried to steal the show unfortunately.

[Boscombe Bee]

Good idea for a thread. We can also see who is coming our way and decide if they are rubbish or not before hand.

For example this Saturday we have

Referee: Carl Boyeson of Kingston-upon-Hull
Assistants: Ross Joyce of Middlesbrough & Robert Atkin of Scunthorpe
4th official: Michael Denton of Todmorden

Bizarrely Boyeson reffed the exact same fixture last season and sent off Joe Skarz of Bury. Gave us a pen, but should have given us an earlier one.
Joyce is a ref in the Blue Sq Premier and last lined one of our games at Rochdale in 2010-11
Atkin is a ref at Blue Sq North level and as far as I know may not have lined one of our games before.

[Brentford 4 Life]

Good idea for a thread. We can also see who is coming our way and decide if they are rubbish or not before hand.

For example this Saturday we have

Referee: Carl Boyeson of Kingston-upon-Hull
Assistants: Ross Joyce of Middlesbrough & Robert Atkin of Scunthorpe
4th official: Michael Denton of Todmorden

Bizarrely Boyeson reffed the exact same fixture last season and sent off Joe Skarz of Bury. Gave us a pen, but should have given us an earlier one.
Joyce is a ref in the Blue Sq Premier and last lined one of our games at Rochdale in 2010-11
Atkin is a ref at Blue Sq North level and as far as I know may not have lined one of our games before.

Cheers for the info thats exactly what i was hoping this thread will achieve.

[Kettering Bee]

About 15 years ago, Andy Woolmer used to own my local corner shop in Kettering. He used to do this strange little trick with coins (change) - FACT!

[Bill Benn]

About 15 years ago, Andy Woolmer used to own my local corner shop in Kettering. He used to do this strange little trick with coins (change) - FACT!

Not interested in your kinky past.

[RodBee]

Excellent idea.

I thought Woolmer was appalling last week.

The sending off was correct and one of the few decisions he got right.

as said earlier, the good ref is the one you don't notice - Woolmer was diametrically opposite to that.

[ladbroke]

Excellent idea.

I thought Woolmer was appalling last week.

The sending off was correct and one of the few decisions he got right.

as said earlier, the good ref is the one you don't notice - Woolmer was diametrically opposite to that.

I would go as far as saying he didn't make that decision... the assistant did...

[Kettering Bee]

Not interested in your kinky past.

I'm minded to report you for bullying!

[Boscombe Bee]

Cheers for the info thats exactly what i was hoping this thread will achieve.

We can also foresee any local biases at away matches in advance! Somewhat like Michael Bull's at Colchester last season, who came from Chelmsford!

[Boscombe Bee]

Officials for tonights game...

Referee..... Carl Berry of Cheam
Assistants....Daniel Leach of Witney & Wade Norcott of Harlow
4th Official.... Andrew Laver of Portsmouth

Berry is a 2nd year FL referee. Local-ish appointment. Reffed 2 of our games in his first season. The defeat at Stevenage, which he was dreadful, and the pre Christmas win over Hartlepool, which was also a dodgy performance, but that time in our favour. It seems he is being earmarked for the top after 4th officialing a PL match on Saturday.

Norcott is a regular at GP, either running the line or 4th official . He ran the line at our last home game against Wednesday. Leach only previous Bees experience was in the 2-1 home win over Chesterfield last season.

On a side note, I believe the linesman for Bury was changed from Ross Joyce to Mark Astley (from Manchester!!).

Also a number of referees have now gone after last season including Colin Webster the villain at Huddersfield. Andy Penn, Andy Hall. Grant Hegley, he we used to see a lot of, and of course Danny McDermid who reffed his last game for the Bees. A number of linos have been promoted to FL referees, including Steve Bratt, who used to be a ref before being demoted. Lots of comings and goings with linos. Overall there is 9 more linos to chose from then last season.

[Glenisterbee]

Lets see if he gets the game away on time. Games always seem to kick off three or four minutes late nowadays.

[condorman]

Lets see if he gets the game away on time. Games always seem to kick off three or four minutes late nowadays.

This is a positive as I'm usually late leaving the pub

[Brentford 4 Life]

Thought Carl Boyeson on Saturday was alright, he gave decisions both teams diagreed with but he was an improvement from the plonker at Walsall. Seemed a fair shout for a Bury penalty at the time but having watched the FL show i think Dean got the ball (although i dont want to see anymore last ditch lunges like that again because it will only be a matter of time before a pen is given, especially away at the "big" clubs)

[ruislip bee]

Officials for tonights game...

Referee..... Carl Berry of Cheam
Assistants....Daniel Leach of Witney & Wade Norcott of Harlow
4th Official.... Andrew Laver of Portsmouth

Berry is a 2nd year FL referee. Local-ish appointment. Reffed 2 of our games in his first season. The defeat at Stevenage, which he was dreadful, and the pre Christmas win over Hartlepool, which was also a dodgy performance, but that time in our favour. It seems he is being earmarked for the top after 4th officialing a PL match on Saturday.

Norcott is a regular at GP, either running the line or 4th official . He ran the line at our last home game against Wednesday. Leach only previous Bees experience was in the 2-1 home win over Chesterfield last season.

On a side note, I believe the linesman for Bury was changed from Ross Joyce to Mark Astley (from Manchester!!).

Also a number of referees have now gone after last season including Colin Webster the villain at Huddersfield. Andy Penn, Andy Hall. Grant Hegley, he we used to see a lot of, and of course Danny McDermid who reffed his last game for the Bees. A number of linos have been promoted to FL referees, including Steve Bratt, who used to be a ref before being demoted. Lots of comings and goings with linos. Overall there is 9 more linos to chose from then last season.

I don't remember Berry being dreadful at Stevenage and he gave us 2 pens!

[Brentford 4 Life]

I don't remember Berry being dreadful at Stevenage and he gave us 2 pens!

The b@stard didnt volunteer to take them for us though did he!

[Invipai]

I don't remember Berry being dreadful at Stevenage and he gave us 2 pens!

Yeah but it wasn't good refereeing to give those I'm not moaning and hope he continues his trend of awarding us penalties (Hartlepool too), but I've seen better decision making. The one he gave us against Hartlepool was also quite soft.

[Markybee]

Yeah but it wasn't good refereeing to give those I'm not moaning and hope he continues his trend of awarding us penalties (Hartlepool too), but I've seen better decision making. The one he gave us against Hartlepool was also quite soft.

and the problem is?

[Invipai]

and the problem is?

If he gives somewhat questionable decisions for us in those games, it's equally likely he'll give questionable decisions against us too.

As I said I'm not moaning at us getting those penalties, just that they weren't great decisions (one was right though).

[Boscombe Bee]

If he gives somewhat questionable decisions for us in those games, it's equally likely he'll give questionable decisions against us too.

As I said I'm not moaning at us getting those penalties, just that they weren't great decisions (one was right though).

Thats exactly what I feel about Berry. Gives dodgy decisions, so far in our favour, but they wont always be. He's also a bit handy dishing out cards as well, not as bad as Malone or Deadman though, but then thats fairly impossible

[stano]

I don't remember Berry being dreadful at Stevenage and he gave us 2 pens!

they were both awful decisions though, however more importantly they were in our favour

[ladbroke]

Referee..... Carl Berry of Cheam

Seems to be very awful tonight again........

[big neil]

He stood & stared as a Yeovil player deliberately kicked the ball away to waste time right in front of him.
He watched Douglas chop one of the Yeovil players in half in the dying seconds & barely even mentioned it to him.
Crap ref, but at least he gave both teams something to grumble about...

[Invipai]

The first decision he gave our way was on 31 minutes. I did look at the clock at that point.

You often get a sarcastic cheer if a ref is being a little one sided, but this cheer was a lot louder than the usual given how long it had been before we got anything.

His decisions did not change the outcome of the game though, more of a side note.

[BFC1997]

Poor ref, but gave us a penalty so didn't matter (ffs)

[BFC1997]

Can I also say that in the last three games this ref has managed our games, we've had 4 penalties, and missed them all.