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    Quote Originally Posted by ladbroke View Post
    They are all going to be so disappointed with facilities when they all see them together...
    They'll probably go one at a time, or it will aid their pre-match "team bonding"...

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    How a ref can give an indirect free kick when the Lino clearly said it was a push

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    Was as poor as the lino on the BR touchline. Really worried about the standard of refereeing nowadays.

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    My biggest concern was the amount of time it took for the ref to signal for the stretcher this afternoon. From the Ealing Road, it looked a bad one from the moment our man went down and was immediately signalling. Those are the ones you should be able to call yourself or at least get the stretcher team in readiness.
    Second point is the number of hand balls ignored (at least 6) before one was given. Poor stuff.

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    Thought the ref was OK apart from allowing himself to be conned by the cheating numer 5. However the New road Ginger lino abysmal and unsure he knew the offside law

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    The linesman on the New road had an absolute shocker.
    Missed a clear off side in the run up to their goal, and got nearly everything else wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headbee View Post
    My biggest concern was the amount of time it took for the ref to signal for the stretcher this afternoon. From the Ealing Road, it looked a bad one from the moment our man went down and was immediately signalling. Those are the ones you should be able to call yourself or at least get the stretcher team in readiness.
    Second point is the number of hand balls ignored (at least 6) before one was given. Poor stuff.
    It can't be the ref's decision to bring on a stretcher. The medical team were carefully assessing Farids injury then they asked for the stretcher. The ref merely signalled for that to happen.

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    referee Patrick Miller made awful decisions today,the linos wernt much better.the last 3 games the officials have been terrible

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    Quote Originally Posted by staines_bee View Post
    Last minute change of plan...

    http://www.brentfordfc.co.uk/news/ar...ge-410230.aspx

    Go easy on him boys.
    Keep up !!

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    Two things I noted...

    The back pass.. How can he give a back pass when the keeper didn't pick the ball up? Their defender kicked it at the keeper from about 3 yards and natural reaction was to put his hands up to cover his face as at the same time as the ball coming at him, the defender pushed FEA into him. For it to be a back pass, the keeper has to pick it up...

    Following on from that, he originally gave 4 minutes injury time. before FEA injury, he had already played 2 minutes. And when the game re-started he played a further 4 minutes. Surely he plays 2 more minutes from when the game re-starts, not 4?

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    Was the free kick given for obstruction? The defender blocking FEA to get to the ball before the keeper?
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Real Mysteron View Post
    The linesman on the New road had an absolute shocker.
    Missed a clear off side in the run up to their goal, and got nearly everything else wrong.
    Agreed. Forte was at least a yard offside, and the lino just wasn't up with play. He missed so many other things but seemed oblivious to the abuse from us in NR. Do linos get assessed like refs? If so 1/10 would be generous.

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    One thing that annoyed me was their number 5 lead with his elbow on Harry and got away scott free. One of the most blatant offences and the ref missed it. He was very out of his depth today

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladbroke View Post
    Two things I noted...

    The back pass.. How can he give a back pass when the keeper didn't pick the ball up? Their defender kicked it at the keeper from about 3 yards and natural reaction was to put his hands up to cover his face as at the same time as the ball coming at him, the defender pushed FEA into him. For it to be a back pass, the keeper has to pick it up...

    Following on from that, he originally gave 4 minutes injury time. before FEA injury, he had already played 2 minutes. And when the game re-started he played a further 4 minutes. Surely he plays 2 more minutes from when the game re-starts, not 4?
    I take it you have never played the game? Also as a ref, you should know the rules. The bloke tried to dink it back to his keeper, who put his arms out, and handled it with both hands. Could not have been a much clearer free kick!!

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    I was watching on tv in hospitality.. from that view it looked like he palmed it away from a kick that was yards away from him. You could.not say whether he did it to protect himself from harm or to basically stop it.. plus with fea approaching the keeper was probably also reacting to again protect him - naturally with his hands.

    And what has me playing the game got to do with it. Yes I've played the game and still do.

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    I was right behind it in ER. the defender clearly intended to pass it back to Jones but he also rushing out to intercept and it was his reaction to palm it away. The keeper does not have to pick it up, the fact that he merely played it with his hands should be enough to warrant an ID free kick

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbee79 View Post
    referee Patrick Miller made awful decisions today,the linos wernt much better.the last 3 games the officials have been terrible
    Michael Naylor was the ref. Pat Miller was injured.

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    Onto the JPT and the ref will be Iain Williamson of Theale.

    He previously reffed

    29 Oct 2011 2-1 win over Chesterfield

    1 Mar 2011 1-1 draw with Notts County - where he sent 2 County players off

    24 Aug 2010 2-1 Carling Cup win over Hull

    18 Apr 2009 3-0 win over Accrington

    7 Oct 2008 Lost on pens in the JPTat Luton after 2-2 draw

    4 Dec 2007 Lost 1-0 at home to Morecambe (now thats depressing)

    9 Dec 2006 1-1 at home to Tranmere

    22 Aug 2006 a penalties win over Swindon in the Carling Cup sending off a Swindon player

    19 Mar 2005 2-2 draw at home to Chesterfield

    19 Oct 2004 2-1 win over Hartlepool

    25 Aug 2003 2-1 win over Oldham

    8 Feb 2003 2-1 defeat at home to Crewe

    So far this season in 7 games he has sent 2 players off and has a reputation for being a bit card happy, although nothing like Brendan Malone.

    He will be assisted by John Scott of Buckingham & William Bull of Woolston. Scott last lined here in the 0-0 draw with Walsall last season. He is a Blue Square South ref, although i dont think he does this often. Bull hasnt lined a Bees game for a few seasons now.

    4th official. Nicholas Kinseley of Wickford.

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    Fussy and pedantic

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    Unfortunately todays referee is Trevor Kettle of Whissendine in Rutland, which seems a tad close to Scunthorpe if you ask me. He has one of the poorest reputations amongst referees in the FL since being appointed in 2003. Known as the 'Whistling Kettle' due to his fondness of the referees tool!! Described as over zealous. So far this season has given a minimum of 2 cards per match. The Bees have to be careful today!

    The last time we saw him was in the 3-0 defeat at home to Southampton in April 2011, before that it was...

    13 Apr 2010 2-2 draw at Southend.

    15 Aug 2009 0-0 draw at home to Brighton

    21 Oct 2008 2-1 win at home to Morecambe

    9 Feb 2008 1-1 draw at home to Shrewsbury

    16 Sep 2006 goalless draw at home to Bournemouth

    21 Mar 2006 3-2 defeat at Gillingham where he sent off 2 Gills players

    14 Aug 2004 1-0 home win over Wrexham

    14 Oct 2003 the penalties win over Barnet in the JPT or whatever it was called then when he sent off Ben May as well

    The linos todays are Stephen Ross of Boston and Duncan Street of Wakefield. Ross ran the line in the infamous 1-1 draw at Notts County last season and refs in both Blue Sq North & South. Street, I dont think has lined a Bees match before since being appointed in 2010. He tends to concentrate on being a linesman rather than reffing at a Northern Premier League level.

    The 4th official is Ricky Wootton also of Wakefield. Must be a car sharing scheme going on or something!

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    Kettle is dangerous IMO. I have sen him do fine but he also seems to have games when he books everybody and that inevitably ends with a red card or two. Treat with care. Highly combustible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TW1Bee View Post
    I was right behind it in ER. the defender clearly intended to pass it back to Jones but he also rushing out to intercept and it was his reaction to palm it away. The keeper does not have to pick it up, the fact that he merely played it with his hands should be enough to warrant an ID free kick
    I am not sure that is correct mate, I believe the keeper has to pick it up to warrant a back pass or to deliberately pat it into his own path. Making a save from an over hit back pass I do not believe constitutes a back pass. As always, I am prepared to be wrong.

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    Mr Kettle is one of my refs to hate

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhead bee View Post
    I am not sure that is correct mate, I believe the keeper has to pick it up to warrant a back pass or to deliberately pat it into his own path. Making a save from an over hit back pass I do not believe constitutes a back pass. As always, I am prepared to be wrong.
    The keeper can use any part of his body to receive & clear a "back pass" but not his hands. Whether its saving, parrying or picking up the ball.
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    Man in the middle at Donny is Andy Haines from Sunderland - not got many good reviews but then that is typical of many refs at our level !
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