Bury v Bees Match Reports & Reactions

[Bill Benn]

I never said to anyone "you shouldn't post your grumbles on here"
All views are welcome surely - even mine !

Stop moaning at us then

[shouldbee]

You need to direct you anger at me, not Steve G !

Apologies to Steve if he was being sarky ? However I stand by my point that Bees fans have been starved of success for too long and it's not surprising some get impatient and frustrated.

[Steve G]

Apologies to Steve if he was being sarky ? However I stand by my point that Bees fans have been starved of success for too long and it's not surprising some get impatient and frustrated.

Guilty as charged. I know sarcasm is the lowest from of wit but to be honest after so many years starved of success I'm surprised the Bees still have any kind of fan base at all. I would describe the typical Bees fan as good natured, having the patience of several saints and bald from tearing his hair out with frustration. I remember in 1992 a colleague at work (Arsenal supporter) suddenly stopped laughing at my Bees allegiance when we got promoted to Div 1 after 47 years in the wilderness. That seems like a lifetime ago!

[Greenholme Bee]

Lets not beat about the bush - its promotion or bust this year.

Give Rosler/ Warburton until Christmas or f*** them off.

No more seasons of under achieving and people making excuses...

[mundee4england]

Lets not beat about the bush - its promotion or bust this year.

Give Rosler/ Warburton until Christmas or f*** them off.

No more seasons of under achieving and people making excuses...

Is this a serious post? Surely to be 'promotion or bust' we would have to have one of the top 2 or 3 budgets in the league??

[beebopalula]

Is this a serious post? Surely to be 'promotion or bust' we would have to have one of the top 2 or 3 budgets in the league??

Steady,reason and logic on this board?

[Greenholme Bee]

Well for me - a budget of £3.5m is well enough to get us up if used correctly.

The target from M Benham was top six - so why are people lowering the bar and comfortable as usual.

I want success - fed up with excuses.

Anyway, with a home game with Yeovil and again versus Crewe on Saturday - we should be up there by 5pm Sat...

[FlyBee]

Where would you class a 0-0 draw where the 1st half was like watching paint dry and a 2nd where we assumed complete control, waited for 20 minutes left to come, covered up and get a point?

Picking up where we left off last season

[rosenewstead]

The last time we played at bury on the opening day of the season we lost and ended up as champions and getting promoted. So alls not lost so stop moaning. You will all be surprised when you find out who this mystery striker is.

[beebopalula]

Well for me - a budget of £3.5m is well enough to get us up if used correctly.

The target from M Benham was top six - so why are people lowering the bar and comfortable as usual.

I want success - fed up with excuses.

Anyway, with a home game with Yeovil and again versus Crewe on Saturday - we should be up there by 5pm Sat...

Wasn't last year's target to better the previous season [ which was achieved] ? Not sure what the target is this year but I understand the budget is the same as in the previous two seasons and I believe it was 8th or 9th highest in the league last year. It is relevant particularly if you are trying to sign a top striker. Given the budget limitations we have cleared out a lot of players and the squad is really only lacking in one area which we all know about. Hopefully Weston's departure was timely.

[Ealing Bee]

Rosler set us u for a 0-0 against what will prove to be one of the divisions weaker teams and that's what we got. If he is happy with that maybe it indicates a lack of ambition.

Re lack of ambition, I wasn't there, so you may be right.

But from reading reports by those who were, I can't help wondering whether it wasn't more a case of pragmatism on Uwe's part?

That is, he might have picked an attacking formation, which had a lot of possession and created chances etc, but because it was away, it was the 1st team of the season (i.e. ring-rusty) and we only had one fit striker, we might have struggled to score anyhow. Which would leave us open to a sucker punch from Bury and a horrible 1-0 defeat?

Whereas by keeping it tight, he could hope at least to secure a point, which sets the team up for two winnable home games and (we hope) the introduction of a new striker?

I mean, if he's still adopting such tactics running into October and November etc, then I'm sure questions will be asked.

But one game into the season?

[SmiffyBee]

Apologies to Steve if he was being sarky ? However I stand by my point that Bees fans have been starved of success for too long and it's not surprising some get impatient and frustrated.

Fair enough, and again, I didnt say you couldn't express that

Lets not beat about the bush - its promotion or bust this year.

Give Rosler/ Warburton until Christmas or f*** them off.

No more seasons of under achieving and people making excuses...

If it's promotion or bust this season, then why get rid of them at Christmas ?
That's the short term view we have had since Allen left.
We have to trust that Benham has the right man this time.
We have been improving slowly season, over season since Benham came to the fore.
We are getting there !

[Ealing Bee]

Lets not beat about the bush - its promotion or bust this year.

Give Rosler/ Warburton until Christmas or f*** them off.

No more seasons of under achieving and people making excuses...

Dear oh dear.

Between 2000 (Noades stepping down) and 2011 (UR taking over), BFC have had 8 Permanent and 3 Caretaker managers. Only two (Coppell and Allen) left of their own accord, with only one going on to bigger and better things.

If that tells us anything, it is that short-termism does not work.

Now I don't know whether UR is the right man to bring MB's plans to fruition, but I do know two things.

One, MB's plans are most definitely medium-to-long term and two, that unless things are going obviously and drastically wrong with UR (which they aren't), then it would be sheer madness to panic after a season and a half and take a chance on a NINTH new manager in little over a decade.

P.S. I've noted this on here before, but it is worth repeating that Alex Ferguson had SIX full seasons at Old Trafford before he won his first EPL title. There were fans at OT yelling for his head long before then.

[NorthamptonBee]

Re lack of ambition, I wasn't there, so you may be right.

But from reading reports by those who were, I can't help wondering whether it wasn't more a case of pragmatism on Uwe's part?

That is, he might have picked an attacking formation, which had a lot of possession and created chances etc, but because it was away, it was the 1st team of the season (i.e. ring-rusty) and we only had one fit striker, we might have struggled to score anyhow. Which would leave us open to a sucker punch from Bury and a horrible 1-0 defeat?

Whereas by keeping it tight, he could hope at least to secure a point, which sets the team up for two winnable home games and (we hope) the introduction of a new striker?

I mean, if he's still adopting such tactics running into October and November etc, then I'm sure questions will be asked.

But one game into the season?

Fair points but we won't be playing Bury away in Oct/November with 3 points up for grabs, a missed opportunity perhaps?

[GP]

Didnt go Saturday so cant really comment however having read most peoples comments about Bury being a poor side had to laugh when reading the following report

http://www.burytimes.co.uk/sport/foo...0_Brentford_0/

And it was the classier Gigg Lane outfit, clearly more comfortable on the ball, that came closest to scoring after finishing both halves on top.

[BedfontRed]

Lets not beat about the bush - its promotion or bust this year.

Give Rosler/ Warburton until Christmas or f*** them off.

No more seasons of under achieving and people making excuses...

Exactly. Fed up with all this bedding in bollocks and give him 100 years to get it right. Massive improvement needed this season. No Tinkering & No Excuses.

[jlove]

Exactly. Fed up with all this bedding in bollocks and give him 100 years to get it right. Massive improvement needed this season. No Tinkering & No Excuses.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

[condorman]

Exactly. Fed up with all this bedding in bollocks and give him 100 years to get it right. Massive improvement needed this season. No Tinkering & No Excuses.

It's probably fair enough to give the team more than one league match to hit peak form though?

[8corner]

Apart from the to55er who after the match kept slapping Joe on the back of the head and then tried to start a fight with poor little 8 Corner who had tried to intervene......The muppet was still ranting about the "penalty". Dunno why he blamed Joe for it!
While 3 of Bury's finest constabulary carried on chatting just 5 feet away.

Yes, what a mug!! I probably confused him though as I thought he was "genuine", hadn't realised he'd given Joe a clip round the back of the head, and started chatting to him about the game (and yes, that effin penalty that seemed to have him wound up). Joe was more than happy to clarify things :-) Now that I have got the gist of what the pr!ck was on about I'm looking forward to continuing our chat at GP later in the season. It'll be his only opportunity as we'll be two divisions apart next season!!

[Bill Benn]

Yes, what a mug!! I probably confused him though as I thought he was "genuine", hadn't realised he'd given Joe a clip round the back of the head, and started chatting to him about the game (and yes, that effin penalty that seemed to have him wound up). Joe was more than happy to clarify things :-) Now that I have got the gist of what the pr!ck was on about I'm looking forward to continuing our chat at GP later in the season. It'll be his only opportunity as we'll be two divisions apart next season!!

Must have been a real tough guy to have a go at joe,doubt if you will see him at GP these sort of pratts never go away.Hope joes ok.

[Greenholme Bee]

Not sure what the target is this year but I understand the budget is the same as in the previous two seasons .

In-correct.

Don't get me wrong, as I said previously a point away anywhere is good but all I'm saying is that after being in the flight above just 'once' in 65 years - it's time to raise the bar and start to expect - Early days but it doesn't look like the squad has been strengthened hardly at all pre season?

No panic from me but I do expect promotion this year, especially on a big budget, especially as it's possibly the weakest division for years, and especially as we have a bigger squad behind the scenes than we have on the pitch - It's time to grow some bollocks - no excuses any more - no acceptance of bad luck or 'we nearly did it'....

[wayfarer172]

If UR/MW are good enough for Mr Benham, then they are good enuff for me.

[NorthamptonBee]

Must have been a real tough guy to have a go at joe,doubt if you will see him at GP these sort of pratts never go away.Hope joes ok.

To be fair, even though Joe is 123 or whatever he is, I would imagine he can still hold his own, no doubt I will see him tomorrow and I have no doubt he will tell me about this pr!ck but with a smile on his face.

[8corner]

In-correct.

Don't get me wrong, as I said previously a point away anywhere is good but all I'm saying is that after being in the flight above just 'once' in 65 years - it's time to raise the bar and start to expect - Early days but it doesn't look like the squad has been strengthened hardly at all pre season?

No panic from me but I do expect promotion this year, especially on a big budget, especially as it's possibly the weakest division for years, and especially as we have a bigger squad behind the scenes than we have on the pitch - It's time to grow some bollocks - no excuses any more - no acceptance of bad luck or 'we nearly did it'....

I agree Greenholme - I'm sure MB has raised the bar and expectations are high across the board - fans, players, staff and management. I was disappointed we only took a point from the game Saturday and I do get frustrated that the way we "set our stall out" in many games (often very winnable like Saturday) doesn't strike me as positive enough. However, my pre-season optimism and expectation remains intact.

[Greenholme Bee]

To be fair, even though Joe is 123 or whatever he is, I would imagine he can still hold his own, no doubt I will see him tomorrow and I have no doubt he will tell me about this pr!ck but with a smile on his face.

Joe Joe 'Av a Go!!