The long throw tactic

[Brentford_till_die]

Only goal we got from it was in the first 50 seconds against Oldham on a Tuesday night towards the end of last season. Bean sprinted in unmarked and nodded/volleyed it in to everyone's amazement,

Yesterday it looked like the players were making this set piece up, for Clayton to throw it towards Sam and Forshaw who were static looking to flick on dwarfed by the centre halves in the middle looked odd and you could see Clayton was losing heart with each throw as they got shorter and shorter, one barely made the box.

Im All for a long throw in the last 10 mins when you are chasing the game and want to create mayhem in the penalty area, but if this is a planned set piece we are relying on to make a difference in a game, it needs a rethink of who does what, because yesterday it looked predictable and a bit weak.

Spot on

[Brentford_till_die]

But yesterday we did have someone with heading ability in the penalty box! Dean, Legge and Craig all trooped forward for all the long throws (Logan and Barron stayed back to cover breakaways). It didn't make a blind bit of difference, we didn't look like scoring from any of them.

or any corner from the last two games, very poor I must say.

[jlove]

Actually, that is more the point: from set pieces, whether long throws, corners or free kicks, we just don't seem to be able to beat an average L1 defence to the ball. Even Leon was struggling at Bury and he's usually on the end of quite a few. More practice needed, I think, with Legge, Dean and Craig, plus El Alagui, we should be able to get on the end of a few.

[JANORAK]

As an out & out attacking move, even Stoke don't score that many goals using it. What they do successfully do, is use the tactic as part of their arsenal to build pressure & force free kicks, corners and mistakes.
At the moment, we don't apply concerted pressure, and the long throw seems totally at odds with the patterns we're otherwise creating, and should be re-thought.

[beebopalula]

waste of time as currently executed. Pl ditch.

[Brain-dead Bee]

I don't mind it being used now and again as a variation, but 2-3 times a match at most, not every throw in the last 25 metres. No objection to a striker taking them, as my earliest long throw memory at GP is of Roger Cross, as long as someone else is there to head it on. I think the best I've seen from a Bee in recent years was from Sonko, but he rarely took them. But in terms of success, there was the Bean one someone mentioned, and Dickson got one from a Hunt throw (again with everyone missing it, not it being headed on), but I can't recall others in recent years

[NorthamptonBee]

I don't mind it being used now and again as a variation, but 2-3 times a match at most, not every throw in the last 25 metres. No objection to a striker taking them, as my earliest long throw memory at GP is of Roger Cross, as long as someone else is there to head it on. I think the best I've seen from a Bee in recent years was from Sonko, but he rarely took them. But in terms of success, there was the Bean one someone mentioned, and Dickson got one from a Hunt throw (again with everyone missing it, not it being headed on), but I can't recall others in recent years

At home v Norwich.

[Kingston Bee]

Dont have a problem using it now and again but to be fair it has not been effective. Unlike Stoke we are not a big team and with one of our tallest players taking the throw makes our chances of getting anything from them rather slim. If we are chasing the game then its a good tactic but if we want to retain possession then maybe not.....

[Low End Bee]

Donaldson's throw is just long. It hasn't got the speed or trajectory of Delap's throw so can't cause the chaos that his does.
it's a waste of time. Bury didn't look at all bothered by it.

[Beebop]

.... and don't forget we've added a metre to the pitch.

[RodBee]

I wrote on this subject to Uwe last season.

Not because of my letter, but he did stop the 'tactic' as it was pointless. Certainly, with no-one in the centre to take advantage a long throw is a giveaway to the opposition.

Never looked dangerous on Saturday - or last season.

Forget it and try to score through skill.

[ChrisSmith1992]

The throw has to be flat and hard, unlike CD'S who's is just looped in the box in the hope we score from the rebound.

[Bizzy Bee]

Didn't work when Dave Hunt was with us and never will!

[Benjo76]

Should be used very occasionally and should be a couple of varieties that the team is well drilled in, no space for any kind of hopefull balls in football anymore. Much better, get it on the ground and slam it accross the floor at pace, much more likely to do damage than most things in the air unless got somebody either huge/brilliant in the air or both

[eaglebee]

Never works, never will, a C/F should be just that, in the Centre, not throwing balls in from the touchline, Uwe tried it, it's not worked, should be scrapped from today, we must be the only team in the UK that users a C/F for throw ins, daft idea, far to modern for us !!

[mhead bee]

a C/F should be just that, in the Centre, not throwing balls in from the touchline, !

Although that would be a neat trick.

[I'll Bee Damned]

For me the key to set pieces, whether corners, free kicks or this type of throw in, is be very good at them, like Sam S is from direct free kicks, or make them varied to keep the oppo guessing and difficult to defend. CDs throws are poor so we should be mixing it up or at least do two or three and then change the tactic against the oppos expectations.

[jlove]

Now we've signed a centre forward, maybe it will work...

[Stuardo]

Absolutely agree! it is a rubbish tactic - or at least we are rubbish at it! the main aerial threat and physical presence takes the throw, and we never look like causing any problems with it.

added to that that we always do the same thing in and around the box, makes us predictable (I'd be more interested to know why if we think it is a great tactic we don't do it just inside the half way line to get onto the edge of the penalty area - but we've never even tried that one!)

didn't work with Hunt who had an immense throw. stop it now!

and on a similar point - could we also look at how dangerous we aren't when defending corners, it is almost back to the bad old days of Martin Allen's corner tactics when we put everyone back, so that when we cleared the ball came straight back at us resulting in a goal or a missed shot pretty much every time.

[GP200]

.............yep..............stop it now.............

[readingbee]

Used again tonight, and again proved to be utterly futile.

[BFC1997]

think we should stop using them now

[Owlsmoor_Bee]

Bearing in mind how few crosses we manage from decent positions, I'm utterly amazed that we're still persisting with this tactic when we could actually take the chance to work the ball into a decent position and get proper ball into the box.

[Hullbee]

Reckon he should lob it backwards over his head as this would be more effective and have an element of surprise

[Brain-dead Bee]

I only remember 3 or 4 last night; no better and no worse than our other ineffective tactics in that game