Orient match reports

[North London Bee]

It's also a question of getting more players in the box.

Douglas does so, Toumsni rarely but I think Adeyemi could be a goal threat for us

[teesbee]

Like Boscombe Bee, I've lost the will to troll (sic) through 14 pages of posts. So, also, apologies for any repetition. But skim reading reveals the usual cocktail: three parts twaddle, three parts knee-jerk reaction (compare to reactions when we win), one part measured opinion. In fact, just what you'd expect from a fan-site.

We're Bees in exile 3,500 miles away, reliant on audio, highlights and the odd streamed game. With that limited access it seems to me that the approach play is inventive, the service is quite good and the strikers are getting plenty of chances on goal, a small proportion of which are being converted. The downside is that we seem over-reliant on defensive errors in getting goals. Looking back at the Crewe game, we scored good goals, but there was some woeful defending to help us on our way. Ditto Walsall. But Orient were mostly solid when they needed to be. So not that many gilt-edged chances.

Anyway, to the point: I feel that the strikers need to be less reliant on defensive screw-ups and more reliant on our attacking midfielders creating decoy runs, pulling defenders out of position to create more space in the box. This is what prolific sides do – either the defender goes with the decoy runner leaving the strikers in more space, or stays with the striker, leaving the runner in space as another receiving option. Goals are scored when strikers hit space at the right time, but someone needs to make that space. The more this happens, the more subsequent goals come from errors as defences lose their shape and their bottle. Again, happened against Crewe. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that and I'm sure the coaching team knows it.

The question is, how quickly can we make it happen so that we convert more chances and our own defensive lapses are less critical? Haven't got a clue. Neither, probably, has anyone else on this thread.

[scruff puppy pup]

Like Boscombe Bee, I've lost the will to troll (sic) through 14 pages of posts. So, also, apologies for any repetition. But skim reading reveals the usual cocktail: three parts twaddle, three parts knee-jerk reaction (compare to reactions when we win), one part measured opinion. In fact, just what you'd expect from a fan-site.

We're Bees in exile 3,500 miles away, reliant on audio, highlights and the odd streamed game. With that limited access it seems to me that the approach play is inventive, the service is quite good and the strikers are getting plenty of chances on goal, a small proportion of which are being converted. The downside is that we seem over-reliant on defensive errors in getting goals. Looking back at the Crewe game, we scored good goals, but there was some woeful defending to help us on our way. Ditto Walsall. But Orient were mostly solid when they needed to be. So not that many gilt-edged chances.

Anyway, to the point: I feel that the strikers need to be less reliant on defensive screw-ups and more reliant on our attacking midfielders creating decoy runs, pulling defenders out of position to create more space in the box. This is what prolific sides do – either the defender goes with the decoy runner leaving the strikers in more space, or stays with the striker, leaving the runner in space as another receiving option. Goals are scored when strikers hit space at the right time, but someone needs to make that space. The more this happens, the more subsequent goals come from errors as defences lose their shape and their bottle. Again, happened against Crewe. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that and I'm sure the coaching team knows it.

The question is, how quickly can we make it happen so that we convert more chances and our own defensive lapses are less critical? Haven't got a clue. Neither, probably, has anyone else on this thread.

Wow! Are you royalty?
So honoured that you deemed us worthy of your presence!
Who needs to go into anything in detail when you can (apparently) gain the same insight by skimming it?

[Brentford_till_die]

We are playing some great stuff no one can deny however, having seen us outplay Brighton, Charlton and Southampton at home in recent years without coming away with our just desserts it is clear to me that we are not PO material yet. These teams all went up from Lge 1 recently without particularly impressing at GP but had the knack/resilience/luck (whatever you want to call it) to get results when they least deserved it. We need to have this quality if we have serious ambitions this season or next for that matter, We certainly dont have it at the moment.

Good post

[teesbee]

Wow! Are you royalty?
So honoured that you deemed us worthy of your presence!
Who needs to go into anything in detail when you can (apparently) gain the same insight by skimming it?

No problem

[newbee79]

Just suppose the strikers are doing their best and carry on like they are and we keep losing 1.0, how long do you give them?

We wont know until we are alot more than 6 games in will we

[newbee79]

Keep losing 1-0. We've lost one game by that margin so a little bit premature

keep winning 5-1 some still wouldnt be happy

[shandrani]

How can anyone say we need a change in manager? Look at the side we have, one of the strongest we've had in years. Today we were dominant, without the final finish. El Alagui was never going to be able to play twice a week this soon after a move from the Scottish First Division so I can see why Hayes started. However Hayes looked well off the pace tonight. The goals will come, and in Adam Forshaw, I am sure we have a future premier league player there.

You took the words straight from my mouth !

[bostonhanwell]

Wow! Are you royalty?
So honoured that you deemed us worthy of your presence!
Who needs to go into anything in detail when you can (apparently) gain the same insight by skimming it?

Why does scruff keep lashing out at people. Chill dude.

[jlove]

Who needs to go into anything in detail when you can (apparently) gain the same insight by skimming it?

... and do you think that there is any insight to be gained by reading 350-odd posts when we've lost a match? There's usually 3 or 4 with any merit and those posters are clearly identifiable.

[Balders Bee]

... and do you think that there is any insight to be gained by reading 350-odd posts when we've lost a match? There's usually 3 or 4 with any merit and those posters are clearly identifiable.

But with all due respect 'merit' and 'insight' are very subjective and the GPG would be an area in which 'Tumbleweed' thrives if we didn't have such a 'divergent' range of opinions. I'd put it at atleast 7-8 posters of merit....as long as they share my opinions of course