James Spencer signs on Loan from Huddersfield Town

[JTofBFC]

I am a pragmatist . I would love us to have other options than Clayton, but we haven't and I can't see us binning one of our highest paid players with one more season yet on his contract.

We need 4 strikers who know how to score goals.

CD is a 12-15 goal a season man at best in our league and we need to find at least one more.

German is an unknown quantity but this is a tough profession and he was given a wonderful opportunity and blew it.

Hopefully he will come again but I am only interested in the mess we currently have to endure with our strikers and I honestly don't see German as providing an immediate solution. We need someone who can score goals NOW.

Maybe Spencer will help but I see him as a lower cost option and an educated gamble at best.

We caught a cold with our last 2 experienced loan strikers in Morrison and Clarkson but given our circumstances and Hayes inability to contribute to the level we need the money had, yes HAD to be found within the remaining playing budget to fill the gap with a proven goal scorer.

They are out there but cost at least 3-4 k a week but for whatever reason, maybe good, maybe bad it hasn't happened.

It is all very well criticising UWE but maybe in this instance he hasn't been supported as he should have been. I am sure if he had 2 strikers he could rely on then he would play them but he currently doesn't.

Think you are being a bit harsh on Spencer who wasn't given an opportunity to show us what he can do and I also think it is too early to write Hayes off.

There are clearly two camps of opinion on Donaldson. Those (who to be honest seem to be in the majority) who think that he does enough hard work to justify his place in the team irrespective of how poor he is at finishing and those (including me) who think that the No 1 priority for a striker is having some ability to finish off chances and if we don't have that to start with then we might as well move on from the player and play someone else.

Either way one thing is surely blindingly obvious to all but seemingly Rosler and that is if we are going to play one up front it cannot be Donaldson.

I think you are being very generous to Rosler if you suggest he isn't being supported by Benham in his quest for another £3-4k a week striker. It was Rosler who chose to spend the budget on numerous players who aren't getting near our side - eg Fredericks and Barron, who has chosen to have 3 Senior goalkeepers and who has chosen not to loan players out (eg Reeves) .

It seems Rosler gambled that three strikers would be good enough and stay injury free and lost the gamble. Farid out long term and the other two are misfits. We are now stuck with sending a begging bowl round Championship clubs run by ex mates of Uwe to borrow the likes of Spencer. Well lets see what he can do, IMHO he can't be any worse ! We have however been severely let down by the Management team on the striker front and are likely to start dropping down below mid table as soon as we start our impending run of fixtures against top 6 teams.

I've been a big fan of Rosler up to this point but am beginning to realise he has lost the plot.

[Bill Benn]

Think you are being a bit harsh on Spencer who wasn't given an opportunity to show us what he can do and I also think it is too early to write Hayes off.

There are clearly two camps of opinion on Donaldson. Those (who to be honest seem to be in the majority) who think that he does enough hard work to justify his place in the team irrespective of how poor he is at finishing and those (including me) who think that the No 1 priority for a striker is having some ability to finish off chances and if we don't have that to start with then we might as well move on from the player and play someone else.

Either way one thing is surely blindingly obvious to all but seemingly Rosler and that is if we are going to play one up front it cannot be Donaldson.

I think you are being very generous to Rosler if you suggest he isn't being supported by Benham in his quest for another £3-4k a week striker. It was Rosler who chose to spend the budget on numerous players who aren't getting near our side - eg Fredericks and Barron, who has chosen to have 3 Senior goalkeepers and who has chosen not to loan players out (eg Reeves) .

It seems Rosler gambled that three strikers would be good enough and stay injury free and lost the gamble. Farid out long term and the other two are misfits. We are now stuck with sending a begging bowl round Championship clubs run by ex mates of Uwe to borrow the likes of Spencer. Well lets see what he can do, IMHO he can't be any worse ! We have however been severely let down by the Management team on the striker front and are likely to start dropping down below mid table as soon as we start our impending run of fixtures against top 6 teams.

I've been a big fan of Rosler up to this point but am beginning to realise he has lost the plot.

Pretty well sums up how l feel,

[sonofabee]

Think you are being a bit harsh on Spencer who wasn't given an opportunity to show us what he can do and I also think it is too early to write Hayes off.

There are clearly two camps of opinion on Donaldson.

Those (who to be honest seem to be in the majority) who think that he does enough hard work to justify his place in the team irrespective of how poor he is at finishing and those (including me) who think that the No 1 priority for a striker is having some ability to finish off chances and if we don't have that to start with then we might as well move on from the player and play someone else.

Either way one thing is surely blindingly obvious to all but seemingly Rosler and that is if we are going to play one up front it cannot be Donaldson.

I think you are being very generous to Rosler if you suggest he isn't being supported by Benham in his quest for another £3-4k a week striker. It was Rosler who chose to spend the budget on numerous players who aren't getting near our
side - eg Fredericks and Barron, who has chosen to have 3 Senior goalkeepers and who has chosen not to loan players out (eg Reeves) .

It seems Rosler gambled that three strikers would be good enough and stay injury free and lost the gamble. Farid out long term and the other two are misfits. We are now stuck
with sending a begging bowl round Championship clubs run by ex mates of Uwe to borrow the likes of Spencer. Well lets see what he can do, IMHO he can't be any worse ! We have however been severely let down by the Management team on the striker front and are likely to start dropping down below mid table as soon as we start our impending run of fixtures against top 6 teams.

I've been a big fan of Rosler up to this point but am beginning to realise he has lost the plot.

JT,

No argument with your point that your main striker is paid to score goals, my only question and it's not a facetious
one is who would you rather see here that we've missed out on.
I'm disappointed that neither Hayes or Clayton do enough in the danger area and Farid, who knows he never really had a good enough run but I don't see other forwards
scoring for fun.
What I believe Uwe has to do and very quickly is get more out of the talented players he has at his disposal by playing them in a system snd with tactics that ensures it happens more often than not.

[North London Bee]

I would stick with what I said about Spencer. He IS unproven at our level and IS certainly an educated gamble. Who hopefully will justify UR/MWs faith in him.

I can't argue that some monies have been spunked away and UR has certainly failed to date to bring in enough strikers of the requisite standard however given Farids long term injury I am surprised,that he has not been able to replace like with like ie another experienced striker or one with a track record.

Maybe UR needs to reduce the wage bill before he can make any more serious additions? Who knows.

[Bill Benn]

I would stick with what I said about Spencer. He IS unproven at our level and IS certainly an educated gamble. Who hopefully will justify UR/MWs faith in him.

I can't argue that some monies have been spunked away and UR has certainly failed to date to bring in enough strikers of the requisite standard however given Farids long term injury I am surprised,that he has not been able to replace like with like ie another experienced striker or one with a track record.

Maybe UR needs to reduce the wage bill before he can make any more serious additions? Who knows.

Clayton is still unproven at our level unless you are happy with a 10 to 15 goals a season which would have cost us over 550k for his contracted time with us.Think you could be right about Uwe having to reduce the wage bill before any additions l still wonder what support MW brings to help him to address the striker problem.

[North London Bee]

Clayton is still unproven at our level unless you are happy with a 10 to 15 goals a season which would have cost us over 550k for his contracted time with us.Think you could be right about Uwe having to reduce the wage bill before any additions l still wonder what support MW brings to help him to address the striker problem.

We were all pretty pleased when CD signed for us and lots of other teams were also in for him. For all his pace, selfless running the channels and effort he hasn't done what he was brought in to,d - become a regular goal scorer and I am saddened at all the abuse UR gets when I am afraid a lot of the blame,should be put on players not doing their jobs.
Yes UR needs to be more positive and focus on what WE can do more,than the opposition but he has been let down by players not doing the job properly.

But they are third division players,and that is what you,get with players at this level.

Tranmeres goal,was done to,a combination of dean and Logan, scunnys was down to Dean I believe who was also culpable yesterday.

Clayton was won us points certainly but misses like the one at Bournemouth when we were 1 up, the ones yesterday just to name a few are killing us as we can never get that second goal,that our possession merits.

[hairman]

I've said this before but if it really is down to £5k a week for a striker who could get us promoted which would equate to £100k in total some or all of which would in all probability be recovered in gate receipts as we started actually winning games I cannot understand why the funds are not available.

Who is going to cover the cost of a £5K a week striker? Where does the money come from?

[Mick.C]

Who is going to cover the cost of a £5K a week striker? Where does the money come from?

I think your are right it doesn't come, is the answer. Matthew Benham gives a budget of money, the management spend it as they see fit to get this team into a top six position.

We can't be sure as we are just supporters but you can see if you judge from afar, that Uwe goes after big money, old hands, his three main targets this summer were Craig, Hayes and the guy from Scotland Robertson, who mucked us about, then Farid. Big wages, big contracts, big dent in budget.

That leaves Warburton to get his little book out and land the younger cheaper people like Fredericks, Spencer, Bidwell on loan deals, whilst securing permanently Forshaw and Dean all players 21 and under. It's a game of money Monopoly and Benham is the banker, Rosler may want another striker on 4 or 5k a week but then the budget is shot full stop. If Uwe's spent it or nearing the limit, he ain't getting a dime more. Uwe hinted at this last year.

It appears Benham has given Uwe a good enough budget, but if Uwe struggles and can't put the present pieces of the puzzle together to form a top six side this year, then Matthew will probably knows the answer to his next question. One thing I'm pretty confident on, is the budget limit he sets is stretched for no one.

So close, but if Uwe keeps saying one player more at 4-5k, he'll be pointed back to his budget and the money monopoly board and told to return to GO without troubling the banker!

[North London Bee]

I think your are right it doesn't come, is the answer. Matthew Benham gives a budget of money, the management spend it as they see fit to get this team into a top six position.

We can't be sure as we are just supporters but you can see if you judge from afar, that Uwe goes after big money, old hands, his three main targets this summer were Craig, Hayes and the guy from Scotland Robertson, who mucked us about, then Farid. Big wages, big contracts, big dent in budget.

That leaves Warburton to get his little book out and land the younger cheaper people like Fredericks, Spencer, Bidwell on loan deals, whilst securing permanently Forshaw and Dean all players 21 and under. It's a game of money Monopoly and Benham is the banker, Rosler may want another striker on 4 or 5k a week but then the budget is shot full stop. If Uwe's spent it or nearing the limit, he ain't getting a dime more. Uwe hinted at this last year.

It appears Benham has given Uwe a good enough budget, but if Uwe struggles and can't put the present pieces of the puzzle together to form a top six side this year, then Matthew will probably knows the answer to his next question. One thing I'm pretty confident on, is the budget limit he sets is stretched for no one.

So close, but if Uwe keeps saying one player more at 4-5k, he'll be pointed back to his budget and the money monopoly board and told to return to GO without troubling the banker!

The key question is how much budget has been spent and how much is left and I totally agree that the figure is fixed and should not be increased.

[sonofabee]

I think your are right it doesn't come, is the answer. Matthew Benham gives a budget of money, the management spend it as they see fit to get this team into a top six position.

We can't be sure as we are just supporters but you can see if you judge from afar, that Uwe goes after big money, old
hands, his three main targets this summer were Craig, Hayes and the guy from Scotland Robertson, who mucked us about, then Farid. Big wages, big contracts, big dent in budget.

That leaves Warburton to get his little book out and land the younger cheaper people like Fredericks, Spencer, Bidwell on loan deals, whilst securing permanently Forshaw and Dean all players 21 and under. It's a game of money Monopoly and Benham is the banker, Rosler may want
another striker on 4 or 5k a week but then the budget is shot full stop. If Uwe's spent it or nearing the limit, he ain't getting a dime more. Uwe hinted at this last year.

It appears Benham has given Uwe a good enough budget, but if Uwe struggles and can't put the present pieces of the
puzzle together to form a top six side this year, then Matthew will probably knows the answer to his next question. One thing I'm pretty confident on, is the budget limit he sets is stretched for no one.

So close, but if Uwe keeps saying one player more at 4-5k, he'll be pointed back to his budget and the money monopoly board and told to return to GO without troubling the banker!

I reckon that's about right, what's frustrating is that from what I've seen of other sides so far this squad without another forward has the potential to make top 6.
I hope that if Matthew sees in Jan that we've progressed, learnt how to win away and maintained good home form he may dip into his pockets if we identify someone who might cement a promotion challenge.

[Mick.C]

The key question is how much budget has been spent and how much is left and I totally agree that the figure is fixed and should not be increased.

Think we my get the answer to this, over the next two signings (loan or otherwise) by Jan 31, NLB.
Shrewdness and common sense dictates you don't blow the budget by October, leaving a bit in reserve for a extra push in January, but the words common sense and budget don't fit in the same sentence in football.
So close, one more striker, but in reality in budget terms, we could be a long way away, we'll see.

[Brentford_till_die]

Agree with a lot of that, i still think your being harsh on German though, the fella impressed away at Bournemouth last season and came out with pride a few days prior at Orient (when most others didnt) i thought his general play (in his short cameo) was decent against Crawley also, 3 games and he hasnt let us down yet,i think he could feel hard done by when you say he blew his chance.

Agree with this. Also for the dev squad he scored a few and some good performances.

[Judio1999]

He is Number 11 according to Donny site

http://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/f...&tcmuri=194452

[kevalutonbee]

He is Number 11 according to Donny site

http://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/f...&tcmuri=194452

Compare and contrast their website with our pile of cack

[Judio1999]

I didnt think we were this bad in front of goal

http://www.brentfordfc.co.uk/stats/player-stats/

[vcmazz]

I didnt think we were this bad in front of goal

http://www.brentfordfc.co.uk/stats/player-stats/

No idea what it says, but not to worry. Computer probably needed a reboot anyway .

[Voice from the Braemar]

i hope his man flu is gone........we need him out there tomorrow night, sniffles or no sniffles

or are we playing 1 up front again ??

[wanderer paul]

Good movement and strong for a young lad. Need to see more please. Has to start Saturday....

[GP200]

................Liked the look of this fella................time for him to start Saturday.............

[Wooburn Bee]

................Liked the look of this fella................time for him to start Saturday.............

We are playing best football since coppell years we have some of best youngsters we have ever had with several likely to play at a higher level : Logan bidwell dean Moore Forrester Forshaw and maybe Dallas and spencer.We have a forward in Clayton who frightens defenses (and some solid older pros in douglas diagoraga connor lee "legge)so let's support team and forwards we have as once goals start going in we could become the real force of division as confidence flows.

[Wooburn Bee]

................Liked the look of this fella................time for him to start Saturday.............

We are playing best football since coppell years we have some of best youngsters we have ever had with several likely to play at a higher level : Logan bidwell dean Moore Forrester Forshaw and maybe Dallas and spencer.We have a forward in Clayton who frightens defenses (and some solid older pros in douglas diagoraga connor lee "legge)so let's support team and forwards we have as once goals start going in we could become the real force of division as confidence flows.

[Brentford_till_die]

Very encouraging performance, got straight into the game and slotted in very well. Hope to see more of him, looks a very useful signing

[beebopalula]

Gave us extra mobility and got into the box. He made a difference. Don't think he'll start on Saturday though. In some ways that will be a result of the silly booing. Uwe has to back his man.

[The Pipe]

Liked his confidence as evidenced when he bawled out Clayton for not giving him a better pass!!

[RitchBee]

Liked his confidence as evidenced when he bawled out Clayton for not giving him a better pass!!

Noticed that as well, he was the better option