Bees V Donny Match Reports

[YorkBee]

Cant see one started so here goes, my apologies if it has to be merged..

" 1 - 0 Douglas we are playing so well its scary " that was the text i sent my son at half time.

2 substitutions later and we fell to pieces last text to my son

"dont ask me how we lost"

even speaking to Donny fans after the game I heard the same thing "what did your manager make the subs for you were killing us best football ive seen from an away team for years"

Dean Saunders obviously put a rocket Up his players backsides at halftime Uwe fecked up big time Leon for Bidwell didnt work and neither did bringing Kev OC on.

Oh yeah a Big BIG Up from the bees fans for the support of Clayton today I dont blame Him at all for us losing the chance in the first half was something he made out of nothing i cant think of another player that could have made that into a semblance of a chance lets be honest if he was to score from even half his chances he would be in the premiership, he is where he is becasue he isnt able to convert the chances he makes and I would love to see the stats for the mileage he covers in a game.

I am gobsmacked to be honest that we lost and i lay the blame fairly and squarely on the touchline for two dodgy substitutions.

[wanderer paul]

Knowing that Bidwell and Forshaw were injured. What changes would you have made?

[Doovster]

Knowing that Bidwell and Forshaw were injured. What changes would you have made?

Was Bidwell injured? The interview I heard from Uwe said Jake looked tired. If true sounds like a cop out to me as wouldn't expect a 20 year old to be tired after 59 minutes.

Not sure about Forshaw but if he was injured why not Dallas who is more offensive than Kev?

[YorkBee]

Knowing that Bidwell and Forshaw were injured. What changes would you have made?

were they injured? because if they were we are fecked as the squad is no where near good enough as the replacements weakened the team considerably.

[German Bee]

I live in Tickhill near Doncaster.One donny fan said to me."i going to do the lottery tonight after watching that"

[JTofBFC]

Knowing that Bidwell and Forshaw were injured. What changes would you have made?

Think the expression. 'flogging a dead horse' springs to mind why don't you let those that were there stick up for Uwe's substitutions if they want to !

[RitchBee]

Just back, why can't Forshaw last 5 or 10 more?

Does an alarm go off in Uwe pocket or something and he has to take him off.

Ademyi was tiring badly more than Forshaw which showed when he couldn't close down Cotterill for the goal.

If you take the possession of 76% it seems that the time decides to go negative and loses us the game.

Stay in the front foot and they were made to look like mugs.
You could see us starting to sit back and that cost us in the end.

For 75 minutes we were absolutely brilliant but that doesn't win you games unless you put the opposition to bed that is our problem.

Two Donny fans i chatted to after the game couldn't believe it either

[josht]

Barron on for Bidwell and Dallas on for Forshaw would have worked for me. Our lack of pace and pressing after the substitutions let them back in the game in my opinion. Yes it was a cracking effort for their first goal, but they'd been nowhere near our box up until we changed our shape.

Simon Moore made a decent save in the first half from a free kick, and managed his box well. Dean and Craig were both commanding and imperious at the back, and our full backs got forward but also covered defensively as well.

The midfield was solid, each taking it in turn to prod, push and clear up, and I though our middle three of Adeyemi, Toumani and Douglas had an excellent first 60 minutes. Donaldson did what he always does, creates chances that very few other players could fashion but was wasteful in front of goal. His initial one on one was very tricky but felt he could have taken it round the keeper (perhaps being a bit harsh) and in the second half he didn't really have the support when he broke through.

I'm quite comfortable with our away 4-5-1 that we play. We used it to great affect last season when we went on that unbeaten away run, and it seemed to be doing the trick today. Doncaster are a technical footballing side, but they're not much of a team. Didn't work by hard for each other and seemed quite disjointed. As such our first half was dominant, rounded off by an excellent through ball to Douglas from Forshaw, who then lifted it over the keeper and inoff the bar it looked.

Second half started as expected, Saunder had given them a shouting to at half time, but once they ran out of steam (pretty quickly) we coped well. We then dropped to 4-1-4-1, lost our width, lost our shape and handed them back the midfield. Ridiculous tactics to give up dominating a team in favour of sitting back, and it's sad that Uwe doesn't have the faith in the players to maintain a strong performance.

Very disappointed at the moment and I really feel for the players, they played excellently but were let down by the tactics today. Fans were great, brilliant support and lots of noise.

[stano]

You can analyse the performance as much as you like but that goal was unbelievable. Yes the subs were wrong yes we were too negative and yes we certainly should have been more than 1 up.

But donny didn't have a sniff until their first goal which frankly we could do nothing about. When that happens you have to just take the bitter pill. Donny then stepped their game up and there was no way back.

We are missing Saunders at the moment, he showed in the jpt he is clinical.

[wanderer paul]

Was Bidwell injured? The interview I heard from Uwe said Jake looked tired. If true sounds like a cop out to me as wouldn't expect a 20 year old to be tired after 59 minutes.

Not sure about Forshaw but if he was injured why not Dallas who is more offensive than Kev?

An injury to Bidwell is what the commentary pointed to and Mark Chapman confirmed after. Forshaw, as we've all been told via reports and interviews, has an abdominal problem which has to be nursed.

The subs made could've been Barron or Legge for Bidwell. Most would've picked Legge over Barron, meaning Craig goes LB. Now midfield, Uwe could've left Toumani covering and put Dallas on or gone 4-4-2 with Spencer or Hayes coming on. He chose to leave it as 4-5-1 and stick KOC on and push Adeyemi wide and Toumani in with Douglas. It's a choice Uwe had to make and in my opinion most supporters would've made the same subs. Some would've stuck Dallas or Spencer on but I bet most wouldn't have, while we were winning 1-0. We can all make points of Uwe's error after but at the time, it was probably right.

[wanderer paul]

Think the expression. 'flogging a dead horse' springs to mind why don't you let those that were there stick up for Uwe's substitutions if they want to !

I will point out that injuries meant he made those decisions. Not tactical. I will continue flogging a dead horse to highlight the facts not the bullshit you want to spout.

[FlyBee]

You can analyse the performance as much as you like but that goal was unbelievable. Yes the subs were wrong yes we were too negative and yes we certainly should have been more than 1 up. .

How many times should we have buried games within an hour this season only to drop points?

[favershambee]

too many!!!!!!!!!

How many times should we have buried games within an hour this season only to drop points?

[josht]

An injury to Bidwell is what the commentary pointed to and Mark Chapman confirmed after. Forshaw, as we've all been told via reports and interviews, has an abdominal problem which has to be nursed.

The subs made could've been Barron or Legge for Bidwell. Most would've picked Legge over Barron, meaning Craig goes LB. Now midfield, Uwe could've left Toumani covering and put Dallas on or gone 4-4-2 with Spencer or Hayes coming on. He chose to leave it as 4-5-1 and stick KOC on and push Adeyemi wide and Toumani in with Douglas. It's a choice Uwe had to make and in my opinion most supporters would've made the same subs. Some would've stuck Dallas or Spencer on but I bet most wouldn't have, while we were winning 1-0. We can all make points of Uwe's error after but at the time, it was probably right.

Not sure how you can speak for "most would have done...". Our left flank was pissing all over them prior to the change in shape (we moved from 4-5-1 to a rigid 4-1-4-1) meaning that we lost all width and pace. Killing them for pace and movement, and then bring on our less agile and slowest players... Not sure many would agree with you there, but I also think you're flogging a dead horse here.

Many of us are big Uwe supporters, but we're also (somewhat reluctant) to point out where he got it wrong. He got it wrong today, which is even more frustrating after he got it very right with our starting eleven and how we were initially set up.

[TW3Bee]

Just seen the goals on SSN.

The first was a fluke, which Moore could do nothing about and the expression on the scorers face said it all.
The second looked like it was totally avoidable with the defence Standing around watching as a player of Paynters finishing ability had a free header.

[cheshire bee]

Maybe I have rose tinted glasses, we are dominating games but not converting and today we did not convert possession into goals. Look above us and how many teams are we really worried about. Dominated at orient, tranmere, Scunthorpe and today.
We are close to going on a strong run and wouldn't discount a manager of month award before January (you may think I'm mad).
We are so close to being the best team griffin park has seen for many a year, we just need the final answer to the formula and that is to put the white round thing over the white line between the goal posts.
Someone is on for a 5-0 thrashing at home soon !

This year's league is a weak one, play offs as a minimum still.

[WarrenBee]

Just seen the goals on SSN.
The second looked like it was totally avoidable with the defence Standing around watching as a player of Paynters finishing ability had a free header.

With three centre backs on the field, he should have never got a sniff of it.

[magicbees]

Maybe I have rose tinted glasses, we are dominating games but not converting and today we did not convert possession into goals. Look above us and how many teams are we really worried about. Dominated at orient, tranmere, Scunthorpe and today.
We are close to going on a strong run and wouldn't discount a manager of month award before January (you may think I'm mad).
We are so close to being the best team griffin park has seen for many a year, we just need the final answer to the formula and that is to put the white round thing over the white line between the goal posts.
Someone is on for a 5-0 thrashing at home soon !

This year's league is a weak one, play offs as a minimum still.

Stay off the whisky if you think Uwe will take us to the play offs, need him out soon. But it wont happen as Brentford always take ages to get rid.

[wanderer paul]

Jesus Christ. Chief Apologist please step forward. Give it a rest. You weren't even there.

No. Well done. A gold star to your name. I did listen though. So have pointed people in that the subs were made due to injuries and weren't tactical. Shame you only pop up when we lose. I'd say the same 'give it a rest' but you have an opinion so I haven't.

[footman]

Seeing Brentford fans throwing punches at each other wasn't a pretty sight either.

[BedfontRed]

No. Well done. A gold star to your name. I did listen though. So have pointed people in that the subs were made due to injuries and weren't tactical. Shame you only pop up when we lose. I'd say the same 'give it a rest' but you have an opinion so I haven't.

Here we go. You only have a pop when we lose shite. Think you will find I comment after most games win or lose. Obviously we have only won 4 league games out of 13 so I can see why you might think that

[seanrs]

Seeing Brentford fans throwing punches at each other wasn't a pretty sight either.

Sounds serious. Has the frustration that some us have shown on here gone a stage too far?

[Bill Benn]

Seeing Brentford fans throwing punches at each other wasn't a pretty sight either.

If that's true then that's a disgrace,enlighten us

[WarrenBee]

If that's true then that's a disgrace,enlighten us

More of a shoving match TBH, unless it carried on later.

[Bridge Bee]

Barron on for Bidwell and Dallas on for Forshaw would have worked for me. Our lack of pace and pressing after the substitutions let them back in the game in my opinion. Yes it was a cracking effort for their first goal, but they'd been nowhere near our box up until we changed our shape.

Simon Moore made a decent save in the first half from a free kick, and managed his box well. Dean and Craig were both commanding and imperious at the back, and our full backs got forward but also covered defensively as well.

The midfield was solid, each taking it in turn to prod, push and clear up, and I though our middle three of Adeyemi, Toumani and Douglas had an excellent first 60 minutes. Donaldson did what he always does, creates chances that very few other players could fashion but was wasteful in front of goal. His initial one on one was very tricky but felt he could have taken it round the keeper (perhaps being a bit harsh) and in the second half he didn't really have the support when he broke through.

I'm quite comfortable with our away 4-5-1 that we play. We used it to great affect last season when we went on that unbeaten away run, and it seemed to be doing the trick today. Doncaster are a technical footballing side, but they're not much of a team. Didn't work by hard for each other and seemed quite disjointed. As such our first half was dominant, rounded off by an excellent through ball to Douglas from Forshaw, who then lifted it over the keeper and inoff the bar it looked.

Second half started as expected, Saunder had given them a shouting to at half time, but once they ran out of steam (pretty quickly) we coped well. We then dropped to 4-1-4-1, lost our width, lost our shape and handed them back the midfield. Ridiculous tactics to give up dominating a team in favour of sitting back, and it's sad that Uwe doesn't have the faith in the players to maintain a strong performance.

Very disappointed at the moment and I really feel for the players, they played excellently but were let down by the tactics today. Fans were great, brilliant support and lots of noise.

Do we know uwe told them to sit back? I would imagine he said more of the same please lads, we're killing them, and it was the natural reaction of players who haven't seen out an away game all season to drop deep.