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    Bees v Coventry Reports

    The best and the worst of Uwe's Brentford in 95 minutes. It was a sloppy first 20. We looked lethargic and conceded a poor early goal when we waited for an offside down the right which didn't come and their forward wriggled into the area to score from a tight angle, through Moore's legs.

    But we got better as the half wore on, gradually building momentum to the point where we were playing some blistering stuff, mostly down the right prompted by Shay playing like a man possessed. Few teams in the division could have lived with us but the chances kept falling to Hayes whose confidence in front of goal is shot to pieces. He missed two absolute sitters, one from a misplaced back pass and the other a McCammonesque header into the ground and over from 6 yards out. He should also have done better with a tame effort at the far post from a corner. Fortunately Forshaw and Harry combined well down the left and the latter showed the strikers how to finish to give us parity at half time, which was the least we deserved.

    The tempo dropped a touch in the second half but the half chances kept coming........and being missed by Hayes. In his defence he linked well with CD outside the box and kept getting into the positions to miss. There is a good player in there somewhere. Things might have been very different if he hadn't missed that penalty against Yeovil.

    For all our neat passing it looked like this game was going the way of most others this season. We could even have lost it as Moore had to turn over a long range effort then watch helplessly as a 30 yard piledriver cannonned back off the post. We seemed to have no momentum going into 5 minutes of injury time but then Harry, who terrified Coventry all night, went down in the area. It was a soft decision and as he had already picked up a yellow for diving maybe a surprising one. But as GP held it's breath he never looked like missing from the spot and finally we have a comeback win.

    This shouldn't hide the same old deficiencies on front of goal and failure to press home our manifest superiority, but when we play well, as we did in spells tonight, we look a really, really good team.
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    Well deserved win. Positives were excellent football played in spells, Forshaw played 90 mins, Harry looked like Maradona occasionally [ except with his shooting at the end of runs-keep your head over the ball Harry], created a bagful of chances, got a dodgy pen decision [ but we have deserved a break], Spencer looked promising.Everyone played well and I include Hayes but .....
    Negatives were sloppiness at the back occasionally again [ ball watching],Hayes missed chances[ one in the first half was a cast iron header].Clayton hardly had a shot all night.
    Another win on saturday please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garybaldbee View Post
    The best and the worst of Uwe's Brentford in 95 minutes. It was a sloppy first 20. We looked lethargic and conceded a poor early goal when we waited for an offside down the right which didn't come and their forward wriggled into the area to score from a tight angle, through Moore's legs.

    But we got better as the half wore on, gradually building momentum to the point where we were playing some blistering stuff, mostly down the right prompted by Shay playing like a man possessed. Few teams in the division could have lived with us but the chances kept falling to Hayes whose confidence in front of goal is shot to pieces. He missed two absolute sitters, one from a misplaced back pass and the other a McCammonesque header into the ground and over from 6 yards out. He should also have done better with a tame effort at the far post from a corner. Fortunately Forshaw and Harry combined well down the left and the latter showed the strikers how to finish to give us parity at half time, which was the least we deserved.

    The tempo dropped a touch in the second half but the half chances kept coming........and being missed by Hayes. In his defence he linked well with CD outside the box and kept getting into the positions to miss. There is a good player in there somewhere. Things might have been very different if he hadn't missed that penalty against Yeovil.

    For all our neat passing it looked like this game was going the way of most others this season. We could even have lost it as Moore had to turn over a long range effort then watch helplessly as a 30 yard piledriver cannonned back off the post. We seemed to have no momentum going into 5 minutes of injury time but then Harry, who terrified Coventry all night, went down in the area. It was a soft decision and as he had already picked up a yellow for diving maybe a surprising one. But as GP held it's breath he never looked like missing from the spot and finally we have a comeback win.

    This shouldn't hide the same old deficiencies on front of goal and failure to press home our manifest superiority, but when we play well, as we did in spells tonight, we look a really, really good team.
    Spot on- we still lack the cutting edge to make it to the top 6- great atmosphere in Griffin Park. Rosler get another forward on loan ASAP and we can be a promotion candidate.

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    great game, we played some great stuff tonight, we missed a lot of sitters but we kept going and the move that led to the pen was quality

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    Cheering when Hayes is subbed wont help things...

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    Some lovely passing football to savour again, Douglas tackled tough all night but Hayes is a donkey at the moment...
    Ah that'll be a case of Chronic Recurring PlayOff Failure for which there is no known cure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brighton bee View Post
    Cheering when Hayes is subbed wont help things...
    He got applause from the New Road which I hope drowned it out. Senseless.

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    I'll write a more detailed report at some point, but I think Hayes was slightly mistreated here. Cheers when he went off and strong abuse when he missed the header. Personally I felt that Donaldson put too much height in the cross to Hayes and Hayes could do no better as a result.

    He hasn't looked like scoring at all, and I hope that's something that'll change. But I wouldn't give up on him yet. The new striker did look pretty good when he came on though, will be interesting to see more of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invipai View Post
    I'll write a more detailed report at some point, but I think Hayes was slightly mistreated here. Cheers when he went off and strong abuse when he missed the header. Personally I felt that Donaldson put too much height in the cross to Hayes and Hayes could do no better as a result.

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    For the second half header, yes. But the point blank one in the first half was on a plate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invipai View Post
    I'll write a more detailed report at some point, but I think Hayes was slightly mistreated here. Cheers when he went off and strong abuse when he missed the header. Personally I felt that Donaldson put too much height in the cross to Hayes and Hayes could do no better as a result.

    He hasn't looked like scoring at all, and I hope that's something that'll change. But I wouldn't give up on him yet. The new striker did look pretty good when he came on though, will be interesting to see more of him.
    When you say he hasn't looked like scoring, he could have fairly routine hat trick today -- one on one from a misplaced backpass, and two headers unmarked from 6 yards. I certainly hoped he would score at least one of them.
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    Our forwards need to start taking a wage from the opposition, beyond frustrating.

    Thought it was a penalty.

    We deserved to win overall.

    Got to love a last minute winner.

    Absolutely shocking away support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Les Beeavinu View Post
    When you say he hasn't looked like scoring, he could have fairly routine hat trick today -- one on one from a misplaced backpass, and two headers unmarked from 6 yards. I certainly hoped he would score at least one of them.
    The one on one, he tried to slide it between the goalkeepers legs but he got enough of a touch, you'd hope he'd score but he was at a bit of an angle. I can't remember the other header to be honest...

    He hasn't looked like scoring, and he could have done better here or there. But I think it's still a bit early to rule him out entirely and to start hurling abuse his way. I'm sure he'll get a goal sooner or later and hopefully he can kick on from there, I'm sure that's what we all hope will happen.

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    Mostly covered by previous posters, thought we just about shaded it on our overall play even if we got lucky with a dubious pen.
    Hey ho about time we got the rub of the green and glad we met Coventry now who will take points off a lot of sides this season and will climb the table soon I'm sure.

    Thought the back four looked good after they'd been caught cold with McGoldrick twisting his way into the box on their first sortee into the danger area. Still think we stopped because the bloke the ball was played to was offside but he left it and McGoldrick showed why they paid Ģ1M for him. Noticed that they had Ģ500k sub in Cody McDonald so regardless of their position they have quality players albeit they seemed to like their pies!

    Learnings from tonight, for me it's obvious Forshaw should play in the middle of the park in front of Douglas with Adeyemi or a n other right and Harry left.

    Harry is quality and gets the crowd going like no one has in recent years and worth paying money to watch, Clayton had a superb game and while never a goal threat led the line brilliantly and played others in.

    Hayes is a footballer but his confidence looks shot as soon as the ball arrives in the box which seems a contagious problem with our forwards which us strange as they never seem to be near enough to each other to pass anything on.

    TC looks like the commanding centre back UR wanted and Shay was 9/10 tonight and defended and attacked well.

    Not popping corks as despite some really good individual performances including Douglas as the holding midfielder which I didn't expect just like I didn't expect us to score when we get in the final third.

    What I do think is this was the lucky win we needed and really hope we kick on and this is the start of the promotion push.

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    The manager and captain have both now commented on the booing of our own players. Have never understood this tactic of booing or sarcastically cheering my own players. Madness.

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    Not sure how people can defend Hayes after tonight's showing. He was slow, lazy and couldn't hit a barn door. He is also quite unfit and it was really embarassing.
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    A deserved win overall, everyone played well except for Hayes who should have scored 2 could have had 3, am getting really concerned about him. A real team effort pulled us through with a little flair from Harry when required. We got a bit of luck with their shot that hit a post, and the pen, but were probably overdue that I believe. Forshaw and Forrester remain the jewels in the crown for me, we must fight to keep them in the transfer window. CD put in a shift as did Dave and Logan. Caught napping for their goal although he took it well however, when you win it covers a multitude of sins. A great team performance. Spencer to start on saturday please. We have to build on this (yes been here before I know), anything less than 3 points on Saturday will be a big dissapointment.
    It was just one of those things....

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    Fair play to Hayes, he astutely noticed we can't hold on to a lead at the moment and made sure we didn't take one until the last possible moment

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    First of all what a great team performance and character to come back from 1-0 to win 2-1. First time under Uwe we have managed to.

    First 15/20minutes we couldn't get going, was pretty even and open game.
    We conceded another poor goal, allowed McGoldrick time and space to slot home at near post.

    Hayes missed with a chance at the back post which he sliced into the side netting. Also a great header that he headed down which was the right thing to do but was unlucky.

    Great work by Forshaw who won the ball deep in our own half and went on an amazing run and played a great ball through to Harry who slotted home very well 1-1.
    Gave us a boost before HT.

    Again had a couple of good chances second half and was frustrating, at least he was getting into the right place and getting chances. Other games he had gone without even looking like shooting let alone scoring.
    Couldn't believe the amount of abuse hurled at him and the ironic cheers when he was subbed. He's our player support him!!

    Craig made an excellent tackle/interception late in the second half.

    Great work by Clayton on the touch line twice keepin the ball from going out, pass to Forshaw who dribbled well and put a good cross in. Harry was shoved and penalty given. Was wondering who would take it but Harry took the penalty very well, big pressure penalty to win the game in the 93rd minute.

    Spencer came on and slotted in really well. Got straight into the thick of it and made things happen. Impressed by him and looks a good signing.

    Moore, perhaps beaten easily at his near post but did make a couple of good saves second half.

    Logan was excellent. He works hard, makes things happen going forward and can rely on him in defence.


    Dean had a nervy 15 minutes but grew into the game and won pretty much all headers.

    Craig was solid and made a very good interception at 1-1 to keep it that way.

    Forshaw had a very good game, would like to see him in the middle of the park, can be wasted on the right.

    Harry took his goal superbly and kept his nerve to convert the penalty in stoppage time.

    Donaldson worked his bollocks off, made things happen, good link up play and some good hold up play and passes.

    Hayes had a couple of good chances second half and was frustrating, at least he was getting into the right place and getting chances. Other games he had gone without even looking like shooting let alone scoring.
    Couldn't believe the amount of abuse hurled at him and the ironic cheers when he was subbed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisSmith1992 View Post
    Not sure how people can defend Hayes after tonight's showing. He was slow, lazy and couldn't hit a barn door. He is also quite unfit and it was really embarassing.
    I'm criticising booing a player who was trying to help, even if not effectively. What on earth is booing going to do to help him start scoring? We only have 3 strikers, we'll be playing him whether we like it or not, and booing isn't going to help turn him into an effective player for us. What I found embarrassing was our treatment of him as he was going off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisSmith1992 View Post
    Not sure how people can defend Hayes after tonight's showing. He was slow, lazy and couldn't hit a barn door. He is also quite unfit and it was really embarassing.
    Yep agree he was awful but we have to support him. I would start Spencer on saturday and hope that Hayes finds the net soon. We only have 3 forwards of which he is one of them, we have no other choice.
    It was just one of those things....

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    @dougieno8: Good result tonight.. Very disappointing to hear our own fan sarcastically booing and cheering one of our players off.. #inittogether

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisSmith1992 View Post
    Not sure how people can defend Hayes after tonight's showing. He was slow, lazy and couldn't hit a barn door. He is also quite unfit and it was really embarassing.
    I will. He was in the right position he should've been in which is what we want. It's getting that goal to give him the confidence to step up and show us what he can do. I really hope it works out for him.

    As for the game, it's been said already, poor first 15, Harlee seemed to struggle picking up McGoldrick, disappointed that Moore let it go through his legs from a right angle, but we came back into the game with some good football.

    Forshaw, Forrester, Douglas & Logan were outstanding tonight. Let's hope they're all fit and raring to go for another 3 important points.
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    Really Poor form from bees fans to Hayes, yes he missed chances but the one at the end was hanging too high.he played the link up role pretty well tonight but his confidence is clearly shot infront of goal.cheering him off is out of order

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invipai View Post
    I'm criticising booing a player who was trying to help, even if not effectively. What on earth is booing going to do to help him start scoring? We only have 3 strikers, we'll be playing him whether we like it or not, and booing isn't going to help turn him into an effective player for us. What I found embarrassing was our treatment of him as he was going off.
    Spot on. Felt very embarrassed when he went off.
    and I thought the Donaldson critics were bad

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