Kevin O'Connor: Out for the Season.

[Mr Tree]

if i had 56 apples, i would say i have many many many apples. hope this clarifies.

[bees66]

Kevin O'Connor has started 421 games for Brentford out of a total of 477 appearances.

Many many many off the bench

so he spent 12% of his career on the bench, your wrong..

[Owlsmoor_Bee]

Kevin O'Connor has started 421 games for Brentford out of a total of 477 appearances.

I think Wouldbee's been merked.

[Banana]

if i had 56 apples, i would say i have many many many apples. hope this clarifies.

If I had 56p I would not have many many cars

[YorkBee]

if i had 56 apples, i would say i have many many many apples. hope this clarifies.

It could mean you are a greengrocer or someone with unhealthy attraction towards a certain fruit or indeed Your user name could be changed to Mr AppleTree

[blunstone]

Kevin O'Connor has started 421 games for Brentford out of a total of 477 appearances.

i would play him in every away game

[Mr Tree]

If I had 56p I would not have many many cars

you're comparing apples with oranges

[Wouldbee]

Kevin O'Connor has started 421 games for Brentford out of a total of 477 appearances.

Ah the joy of statistics. I am wrong because he started 421 out of 477. Of course the other way to look at it is I'm right .........he started as sub a staggering 56 times. That's almost a season and a half. A SEASON AND A HALF. I define that as many many many.

[Wouldbee]

so he spent 12% of his career on the bench, your wrong..

I refer you to my previous answer. I am wrong. And I am right. Sub 56 times. Season and a half.

[Wouldbee]

I think Wouldbee's been merked.

merked? Does that mean run over by a mercedes?

[kevalutonbee]

I refer you to my previous answer. I am wrong. And I am right. Sub 56 times. Season and a half.

56 times/games = 1.217391304 seasons

[hanworthbee]

Ah the joy of statistics. I am wrong because he started 421 out of 477. Of course the other way to look at it is I'm right .........he started as sub a staggering 56 times. That's almost a season and a half. A SEASON AND A HALF. I define that as many many many.

one season at most! thats about 4 times a season!

[wanderer paul]

I refer you to my previous answer. I am wrong. And I am right. Sub 56 times. Season and a half.

Ok. Look at it this way. This is Kevin's 14th season. Don't include the first two, as he didn't play that many times (19 with a few sub apps), so 400 apps in 12 seasons, 33.4 a season and approx 4 as a sub per season, over 12 years. He's also had many months out injured which could add up to a season and a half. So an average of 40+ appearances over his 12/14 seasons isn't too shoddy. There aren't many footballers that can say that at this level.

[Wouldbee]

Ha! The joy of statistics. They can prove whatever you want. Just ask the Government.

[Wouldbee]

Ok. Look at it this way. This is Kevin's 14th season. Don't include the first two, as he didn't play that many times (19 with a few sub apps), so 400 apps in 12 seasons, 33.4 a season and approx 4 as a sub per season, over 12 years. He's also had many months out injured which could add up to a season and a half. So an average of 40+ appearances over his 12/14 seasons isn't too shoddy. There aren't many footballers that can say that at this level.

You are spot on Paul. It's nowhere near a shoddy record. And yet people historically have said he's not good enough. My original point was it's great to see he seems to be enjoying a surge in fan popularity as a footballer where I think for a while that wasn't the case.

[wanderer paul]

You are spot on Paul. It's nowhere near a shoddy record. And yet people historically have said he's not good enough. My original point was it's great to see he seems to be enjoying a surge in fan popularity as a footballer where I think for a while that wasn't the case.

I believe he has a pretty good record with the fans. Maybe 2006/07 was his lowest point, but he's shown over 14 seasons and 10 managers (not inc the 1 or 2 game caretakers!) that he's good enough to play several positions and I don't recall anyone giving him stick in a game....... not inc 2006/07!!!

[Mr Tree]

Ah the joy of statistics. I am wrong because he started 421 out of 477. Of course the other way to look at it is I'm right .........he started as sub a staggering 56 times. That's almost a season and a half. A SEASON AND A HALF. I define that as many many many.

give it up 88% of the games he's played have been as a starter. even if it was as low as 70%, your point would still be tenuous. 88% is a huge amount.

fair enough on your overall point - it is nice to see this upsurge in his popularity. though any "down" points are mainly because, as a society, and particular as sports fans, we are over-critical idiots

[The Pipe]

Consistent performer and played in numerous positions, all recent managers have wanted him. What more needs to be said!!

[Wouldbee]

Well said all. I will close with this epitaph. Kevin O'Connor. Substitute for a SEASON AND A HALF.

[Banana]

Kevin has been brilliant. Won over 10 managers. You are watching a club legend. It's happening in your lifetime. It's unlikely to happen again. Enjoy.

[Wouldbee]

Let's be fair Banana his record at the club speaks for itself.

[Owlsmoor_Bee]

You are spot on Paul. It's nowhere near a shoddy record. And yet people historically have said he's not good enough. My original point was it's great to see he seems to be enjoying a surge in fan popularity as a footballer where I think for a while that wasn't the case.

Never mind the statistics discussion, this I agree with totally.

[wanderer paul]

I'm finding this latest Kev resurgence both in the team and also as a beloved figure held fondly to the bosom of 'the fan' fascinating.

Let's just put aside Kev's commitment to the club aside for one second. If you could plot a graph with a y axis showing 'popularity' and an x axis expressing 'years' I'd wager this is the highest point Kev has enjoyed for quite a time. Historically his relative lack of popularity may partly be due to non appearance due to injury but also lets face it he's spent most of his time at the club as a squad rather than a team man. It's been fits and spurts season upon season and for that you have to hand it to him for sticking it all out. I'm fairly certain there were a few on here calling for him to be ditched not that long ago.

I'm off to draw a graph.

Still waiting for the graph.

Kev's 'line' should be a steady & constant straight one, then a couple of 'ups' under MA, a dip for 2006/07, then back onto a steady climb.............. a few have questioned his place, but the managers (10+) over the years have all picked him in the XI or XVIII, so over 14 seasons (not far off a club record either I may add) his name should to be added, & rightly so, with the football clubs legends of Coote, Gelson & Higginson..... oh and Batesy too!

[wayfarer172]

merked? Does that mean run over by a mercedes?

[Wouldbee]

Still waiting for the graph.

Kev's 'line' should be a steady & constant straight one, then a couple of 'ups' under MA, a dip for 2006/07, then back onto a steady climb.............. a few have questioned his place, but the managers (10+) over the years have all picked him in the XI or XVIII, so over 14 seasons (not far off a club record either I may add) his name should to be added, & rightly so, with the football clubs legends of Coote, Gelson & Higginson..... oh and Batesy too!

The Graph is in progress. I'm just deciding what felt tips to do it in.