Clayton Donaldson Signs

[scruff puppy pup]

Lee Cook, the left winger you mean ?? :confused

Okay, maybe not best example, but he's still scored a couple of goals.

[Bill Benn]

With respect, if you think Donaldson is Conference Standard at best, then you really haven't seen enough games.

He may not be defendable when it comes to the number of chances he's missed but some of the stuff written on here by several respected posters about his lack of footballing ability is just utter horse shit.

While I agree he's better than Conference level as he proved at Crewe,l think he flatters to deceive in the fact that in the easy areas his first touch is good give him a ball in the box and he has the touch of a rapist.Clayton will be 29 soon so we aren't talking about a youngster who has time to work on his game.His confidence must be shot to bits after getting off to a reasonable start to the season so dropping him will not have a positive effect on him so l would try and move him on.

[newbee79]

With respect, if you think Donaldson is Conference Standard at best, then you really haven't seen enough games.

He may not be defendable when it comes to the number of chances he's missed but some of the stuff written on here by several respected posters about his lack of footballing ability is just utter horse shit.

My problem with him is the amount chances he gets and how he doesnt put them away

[Owlsmoor_Bee]

My problem with him is the amount chances he gets and how he doesnt put them away

I would think that's everyone's problem with him and you can't defend him against that at the moment. Suggestions that he isn't a footballer, has no ability though are just plain ludicrous.

[newbee79]

I would think that's everyone's problem with him and you can't defend him against that at the moment. Suggestions that he isn't a footballer, has no ability though are just plain ludicrous.

no,he does so much for himself,does so much hard work,at times,can get in the right places before completely making a mockery of it,thats what makes it worse.He is put up there and it is set up for him to be the goalscorer.the amount of chances hes had already made by himself AND others,many that surely all expect him to have buried,he'd be one of the top goalscorers in the country,hes not even close

[JTofBFC]

To be fair, of the three forwards we have is he really the first one you would ship out assuming you intend to keep the other two? Would you keep hayes over CD?..... really?

Yes quite sure . Hayes has been here 5 minutes and not proved anything either way . Clayton has been here 2 seasons and shown he can't score for toffee . He is also allegedly one of the best paid players so moving him on frees up a considerable sum for replacements . Obviously it won't happen so little point worrying about it .

[aawharris]

It summed it up last season when all i ever saw was GA directing CD, telling him where to run, where to stand for flick ons etc. Shouldnt a 27 or 28 year old have some idea of this? He just hasnt developed at all with us and it doesnt please me to say it

[westwing]

My problem with him is the amount chances he gets and how he doesnt put them away

Even Donalduck would've had a hatrick last night

[Bridge Bee]

In the Chronny today, I see that Clayton isn't worried about his lacking of finishing ability.

Well we're worried for you Clayton as you've been costing us point of late. Engage brain and sort yourself out.

[detours]

What worries me most is not the amount of chances that Donaldson's missed, it's the lack of chances the other strikers have had or made. Acknowledging the fact that if you don't score them it's all for nothing, IMO Donaldson is missing chances primarily created by him or which have become chances as a result of his pace getting him on the end of a decent ball.

To be fair to Farid, in the first half against Shrewsbury he was in acres of space looking for the ball to be put through to him from Adeyemi, who then proceeded to hesitate and ran into a tackle. If he was played further up the pitch he might latch on to more through balls, but he isn't going to if he is continually flicking balls on for Donaldson.

Hayes and Farid is a much scoffed at combination, but with the right players putting crosses in all day we have some aerial skill, and a more natural finisher in Farid.

At the moment Donaldson makes chances for himself with his pace, and then fluffs them. I can't understand how that guarantees him a starting place.

If he was making chances for the team it would be different. But when he finally bore down on goal with Forrester and Hayes in the middle he selfishly tried to score from a tight angle, when he can't even score a one-on-one in the centre of the goal. Whatever he brings to the team, it doesn't translate into goals. So what is he bringing to the team?

[Bill Benn]

To be fair to Farid, in the first half against Shrewsbury he was in acres of space looking for the ball to be put through to him from Adeyemi, who then proceeded to hesitate and ran into a tackle. If he was played further up the pitch he might latch on to more through balls, but he isn't going to if he is continually flicking balls on for Donaldson.

Hayes and Farid is a much scoffed at combination, but with the right players putting crosses in all day we have some aerial skill, and a more natural finisher in Farid.

At the moment Donaldson makes chances for himself with his pace, and then fluffs them. I can't understand how that guarantees him a starting place.

If he was making chances for the team it would be different. But when he finally bore down on goal with Forrester and Hayes in the middle he selfishly tried to score from a tight angle, when he can't even score a one-on-one in the centre of the goal. Whatever he brings to the team, it doesn't translate into goals. So what is he bringing to the team?

The answer to your last point the answer is frustration and more pressure on our defence die to his inability to put away chances whoever creates them.

[staines_bee]

It's funny that both CD and Farid got off to relatively good starts this season. Since one has began their drought, it seems to have had a catalyst effect on the other

[Paul USA]

Just noticed on BBC News that Crewe are being reported to the FA for having goals 32 ft wide and 11 ft high

That probably answers a few questions.

[King John]

While I agree he's better than Conference level as he proved at Crewe,l think he flatters to deceive in the fact that in the easy areas his first touch is good give him a ball in the box and he has the touch of a rapist.Clayton will be 29 soon so we aren't talking about a youngster who has time to work on his game.His confidence must be shot to bits after getting off to a reasonable start to the season so dropping him will not have a positive effect on him so l would try and move him on.

He is league 2 level and was a failure when he played in Scotland aswell.

[King John]

In the Chronny today, I see that Clayton isn't worried about his lacking of finishing ability.

Well we're worried for you Clayton as you've been costing us point of late. Engage brain and sort yourself out.

He not worried because Rosler doesn't drop him- that's the problem.

[aawharris]

As i was told by an ex player last year, Rosler had 3 "Untouchables" . One is no longer at the club, the other two are still always in the first team. Can you guess who?

[BFC1997]

As i was told by an ex player last year, Rosler had 3 "Untouchables" . One is no longer at the club, the other two are still always in the first team. Can you guess who?

Clayton and Dougie still here, presuming osborne is the other one?

[wanderer paul]

Clayton and Dougie still here, presuming osborne is the other one?

Alexander or McGinn more likely........ Osborne wasn't an "untouchable."

[sonofabee]

As i was told by an ex player last year, Rosler had 3 "Untouchables" . One is no longer at the club, the other two are still always in the first team. Can you guess who?

It's obvious one is Douglas given he played in every game he was available for last year but he was voted POTY so hard to question ?

He's benched Clayton on a few occasions last season and has left him out already this season as well so you can't mean him?

If Alexander had been fit, he'd have started every game for me last season

[Les Beeavinu]

As i was told by an ex player last year, Rosler had 3 "Untouchables" . One is no longer at the club, the other two are still always in the first team. Can you guess who?

I don't see this as unusual tbh. Every manager has had their favourites, whether we agree with them or not.

[scruff puppy pup]

I don't see this as unusual tbh. Every manager has had their favourites, whether we agree with them or not.

It's just he's got the wrong ones.
He should start with Harry Forrester and build from there.

[Les Beeavinu]

It's just he's got the wrong ones.
He should start with Harry Forrester and build from there.

In your opinion of course but then you (or I) don't know them like Uwe does. I'm guessing it's not just about footballing ability but also attitude. Many of the players seem to look up to Douglas.

[sonofabee]

In your opinion of course but then you (or I) don't know them like Uwe does. I'm guessing it's not just about footballing ability but also attitude. Many of the players seem to look up to Douglas.

He's a class player in my opinion but definitely not on his game Tuesday and his form has been patchy this season. I don't think that the diamond suits him at all as too rigid and restricts him from having a free reign. Flat 4 in midfield gives Douglas the opportunity to come deep and collect the ball and then dictate play and set the tempo. With Adeyemi and Kev playing deep on Tuesday, both Adam and Douglas struggled to fit into the system. Adam just did his own thing and had a good game but it completely ruined the shape and left us with no width in midfield, one of the reasons why their right back got forward so quickly and so often.

No doubt that Uwe has assembled the best squad of players I've seen for many years but to get the best out of them they need to be played in the right formation

[Bill Benn]

Can we keep this thread on topic please it's about Donaldson ........thank you bill Benn Cheltenham wannabe moderator.

[Les Beeavinu]

He's a class player in my opinion but definitely not on his game Tuesday and his form has been patchy this season. I don't think that the diamond suits him at all as too rigid and restricts him from having a free reign. Flat 4 in midfield gives Douglas the opportunity to come deep and collect the ball and then dictate play and set the tempo. With Adeyemi and Kev playing deep on Tuesday, both Adam and Douglas struggled to fit into the system. Adam just did his own thing and had a good game but it completely ruined the shape and left us with no width in midfield, one of the reasons why their right back got forward so quickly and so often.

No doubt that Uwe has assembled the best squad of players I've seen for many years but to get the best out of them they need to be played in the right formation

I think Forshaw is just about the perfect midfielder for the diamond to be honest. Can play anywhere in midfield and has license to do so - the idea is that the midfield work together to cover each other. Douglas isn't though.