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    Quote Originally Posted by BURFORD BEE View Post
    2 very fortunate 1-0 wins at home to Colchester (17th) and Oldham(19th), either of which could very easily have gone the other way
    On the other hand, both the defeats could very easily have gone the other way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King John View Post
    Come on Guys- smell the roses AND STOP PUTTING OFF ADMITTING TO YOURSELF that we area toothless attack force at present- QED. Donald duck needs to be dropped immediately. We need a goalscorer or we will finish about two thirds down the table.
    Clearly stating it as you see it however whilst you may or may not be wrong regarding Donaldsin you were equally dogmatic regarding the virtues of dropping Ceaig and playing Leon, I refer you to Tuesdays game and rest my case!!!

    Nothing in life is that black and White and I will be very surprised if Clayton is dropped as the alternatives are probably worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pipe View Post
    Clearly stating it as you see it however whilst you may or may not be wrong regarding Donaldsin you were equally dogmatic regarding the virtues of dropping Ceaig and playing Leon, I refer you to Tuesdays game and rest my case!!!

    Nothing in life is that black and White and I will be very surprised if Clayton is dropped as the alternatives are probably worse
    Lets face it, there are no alternatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by readingbee View Post
    Lets face it, there are no alternatives.
    Hayes/Farid, Antonio German (whose been regularly finding the net for the development squad)....all alternatives. Maybe they don't tickle your fancy (can't say they do mine) but they are alternatives!

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    Quote Originally Posted by readingbee View Post
    Lets face it, there are no alternatives.
    Rubbish, if and when Farid and Hayes are allowed to play together in a side that has proper width, eg not confined to centre midfield by the "diamond" then I think there is every chance they could do OK .

    Those that want to persevere with Clayton because "there are no alternatives" are jumping the gun in writing the other two off IMHO. I admit we need other options though, ie a small quick 'un in the Schlupp mould or even a more grown up Berahino type but unfortunately Uwe seems to have blown the budget on defenders and midfielders.
    Not in the inner circle so can only give opinion not fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebopalula View Post
    Let's not go over last season again ! We missed the playoffs by 6 points, had horrendous injuries and needed to shift out a load of journeymen. Our best finish for a few years.The budget was and is the same as Scott had. We have played some really good stuff this season and had some bad stuff but we've only lost two and sit one win outside the playoffs with 36 games to go. Maybe MB doesn't agree with you-I doubt that he does. Maybe you should tell MB to go to specsavers? Uwe will see the season out for sure. At that stage MB will decide and I think one season with his own squad is a reasonable time to make a fair assessment. It's disparaging to the opposition to say we've had easy games-IMO there aren't any in this League . It doesn't matter what team you are [ particularly at this level] , there will be off nights and we had one. What will you say if we win on Saturday?
    Spot on

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    I hope Uwe heard this:
    "We have to run and fight," said Mancini. "It's not enough to just pass..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlove View Post
    I hope Uwe heard this:
    He heard it but tinkered around a bit so it became:

    'We have to run and pass, I don't approve of fighting...'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve G View Post
    He heard it but tinkered around a bit so it became:

    'We have to run and pass, I don't approve of fighting...'

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    Surely given his countries history Mancini will be excellent at running but lacking slightly in the fighting department?
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    Surely given his countries history Mancini will be excellent at running but lacking slightly in the fighting department?
    Tony Soprano would like a word with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevalutonbee View Post
    Surely given his countries history Mancini will be excellent at running but lacking slightly in the fighting department?
    Visit my family hometown Napoli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruislip_Rich View Post
    Totally agree. It's not the forwards that are the problem. It's how they are being asked to play!
    This from a manager who used to be a forward!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pipe View Post
    Clearly stating it as you see it however whilst you may or may not be wrong regarding Donaldsin you were equally dogmatic regarding the virtues of dropping Ceaig and playing Leon, I refer you to Tuesdays game and rest my case!!!

    Nothing in life is that black and White and I will be very surprised if Clayton is dropped as the alternatives are probably worse
    Yes and I put my money down on my analysis of the team and how thy play but I did admit last week that I was wrong on Leon . We both know that Rosler is unpredictable who he picks but for some reason he persists with the Duck- a loanee forward will be forthcoming like last season but we need it now not in two weeks and I will not be backing Brentford to win on Saturday but hope they win- wish I didn't have a season ticket or I wouldn't waste my time and money watching the current frustrating style of play!

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    just listened to Rosler on Beesplayer.apparently Donaldson scores in waves.anyone know when the tides in next.totally uninspiring interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harefield heckler View Post
    just listened to Rosler on Beesplayer.apparently Donaldson scores in waves.anyone know when the tides in next.totally uninspiring interview.
    If its anything like last year there is a wave at the start of the season and a wave at the end . The middle which lasted about 6 months was like a millpond. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTofBFC View Post
    Rubbish, if and when Farid and Hayes are allowed to play together in a side that has proper width, eg not confined to centre midfield by the "diamond" then I think there is every chance they could do OK .

    Those that want to persevere with Clayton because "there are no alternatives" are jumping the gun in writing the other two off IMHO. I admit we need other options though, ie a small quick 'un in the Schlupp mould or even a more grown up Berahino type but unfortunately Uwe seems to have blown the budget on defenders and midfielders.
    Spot on, Hayes hasn't suddenly become a bad player but we have to play to his strengths by playing another forward close enough to him and providing decent service from out wide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofabee View Post
    Spot on, Hayes hasn't suddenly become a bad player but we have to play to his strengths by playing another forward close enough to him and providing decent service from out wide.
    Worth a go, but we will need to play 442 and not this diamond formation, I hate that diamond formation. 442 at home 433 / 451 away with pace

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicbees View Post
    Worth a go, but we will need to play 442 and not this diamond formation, I hate that diamond formation. 442 at home 433 / 451 away with pace
    We overlapped, no to the diamond for me as well and it may be that when we need pace it is Hayes that is left out if we play one up front but that's why we have three forwards although concede we need another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTofBFC View Post
    Rubbish, if and when Farid and Hayes are allowed to play together in a side that has proper width, eg not confined to centre midfield by the "diamond" then I think there is every chance they could do OK .

    Those that want to persevere with Clayton because "there are no alternatives" are jumping the gun in writing the other two off IMHO. I admit we need other options though, ie a small quick 'un in the Schlupp mould or even a more grown up Berahino type but unfortunately Uwe seems to have blown the budget on defenders and midfielders.
    Sorry mate, didn't mean we have no alternatives. Meant we don't have any alternatives like Donaldson's speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by readingbee View Post
    Sorry mate, didn't mean we have no alternatives. Meant we don't have any alternatives like Donaldson's speed.
    Thats why I want to play with wingers to get behind there full backs and bring the best out of Farid, need to try something different. Can always go back to Donaldson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicbees View Post
    Thats why I want to play with wingers to get behind there full backs and bring the best out of Farid, need to try something different. Can always go back to Donaldson.
    Or play Donaldson as a wide midfielder. Let him create for others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magicbees View Post
    Worth a go, but we will need to play 442 and not this diamond formation, I hate that diamond formation. 442 at home 433 / 451 away with pace
    IMO we haven't been playing the traditional diamond ever since Sam dropped out. No-one plays in the hole behind the strikers. Harry hugs the line, Forshaw does most of his work on the right and Adeyemi and Douglas sit in the middle. Harry plays further forward than the other three-looks a bit like a hockey stick shape to me. It seems to bring the best out of Harry although I had assumed he'd play a straightforward positional swap for Sam but that hasn't happened. Re away formation, that'e exactly what Uwe has said we aim to play. I don't think we've seen the last of Sam. If he does come back IMO we will revert to a traditional diamond which worked well last season. But we seem to need a fit and in form Sam for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebopalula View Post
    IMO we haven't been playing the traditional diamond ever since Sam dropped out. No-one plays in the hole behind the strikers. Harry hugs the line, Forshaw does most of his work on the right and Adeyemi and Douglas sit in the middle. Harry plays further forward than the other three-looks a bit like a hockey stick shape to me. It seems to bring the best out of Harry although I had assumed he'd play a straightforward positional swap for Sam but that hasn't happened. Re away formation, that'e exactly what Uwe has said we aim to play. I don't think we've seen the last of Sam. If he does come back IMO we will revert to a traditional diamond which worked well last season. But we seem to need a fit and in form Sam for that.
    When Sam plays well the team plays well. When he's out of sorts we seem to struggle.

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    I think the nub of the problem is not whether Sam plays well or is out of sorts, not whether we play a diamond or a 4-4-2 but that our 3 forwards don't play together, whichever two we play. We have an "intelligent player who brings others in", who really needs a mobile and equally-intelligent partner and/or advancing midfielders (as was attempted at Tranmere); we have a "fox in the box" but that requires the ball and other players in the box; and we have a speedy forward with no confidence to strike the ball but an over-eagerness keep away and to take long throws. All of this means that we have little presence in the box, except at set plays, and end up taking pot shots from distance or wild shots from close in. A forward who can stick the ball in the net and has the support of a partner will be able to play with any formation.
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