The Uwe Rösler Thread

[Streetboy]

the very fact that a home game against crawley is considered to be 'massive' shows that we haven't made much progress since uwe was appointed summer a year ago.

crawley were non-league for most of their history then division two now in our league. that hardly makes them sleeping giants like leeds, charlton or the sheffield clubs.

the fact is we aren't doing particularly well under our current manager in cups or league. hopefully things will improve.

if not we will continue to lose supporters. 4,200 for our last home game aint great.

Nonsense. While I also hoped we'd be a bit further ahead than we are under Rosler at the moment, you can't just dismiss the achievements of the likes of Crawley and Stevenage just because they were non-league a few years back. Just because Leeds, Charlton and the Sheffield clubs are sleeping giants, doesn't mean they have the right to walk this league, and indeed they had to work hard to get out of it, as Sheffield Utd are now finding. I would consider any game against a team above us in the table who could be a potential promotion rival a big game, whether it's 'little' Crawley or 'big' Sheffield United. Presuming we have a right to be better than sides we have more history than is not the mentality of a progressive club, but one living in the past. How many times have those perennial non-leaguers Wycombe and Yeovil dumped us on our backsides in the last decade or so?

[BURFORD BEE]

there'll be no more rosler out cry's if he plays the right team and the right formation/tactics.......its down to him, he's got the players but has to stop the tinkering, the diamond and just let our best team play in a 4-4-2 with forrester as the first name down on the teamsheet......just like yesterday......its very very simple and hopefully uwe will understand that

Absolutely spot on. A real delight watching the game yesterday. We beat 11 plus a lino that looked like something out of an early Boris Karloff film and a ref that seemed to spot the slightest infringment by us whilst ignoring blatant fouls and handballs by them .
442 worked in spades. Why change it away? We can always play Kevin if we want it to be a bit tighter during the game.
Uwe must now realise that he just needs to play his best team and even when things are not quite working dont keep tinkering. I just hope that can get a decent striker in on loan if Farid is out for a time.

[Kingston Bee]

there'll be no more rosler out cry's if he plays the right team and the right formation/tactics.......its down to him, he's got the players but has to stop the tinkering, the diamond and just let our best team play in a 4-4-2 with forrester as the first name down on the teamsheet......just like yesterday......its very very simple and hopefully uwe will understand that

In a nutshell....spot on.

[zuko]

A huge step in the right direction, we have the players, we now need the manager. Uwe is a lucky man with all this talent at his disposal, hopefully he carrys on believing it.

Don't see why he's 'lucky' to have these players when he brought them all in (bar Moore)

[NorthamptonBee]

Don't see why he's 'lucky' to have these players when he brought them all in (bar Moore)

That's not what I meant, when has a Bees manager had the luxury of so many good players, we've always been 2 injuries away from an ordinary side but IMO we have good cover and a decent squad thanks to MB. People keep saying that when injuries kick in, Tranny and Stevenage etc will be in trouble, I don't want to wait until then to be up with them, we're good enough now to go on a run.

[sonofabee]

That's not what I meant, when has a Bees manager had the luxury of so many good players, we've always been 2 injuries away from an ordinary side but IMO we have good cover and a decent squad thanks to MB. People keep saying that when injuries kick in, Tranny and Stevenage etc will be in trouble, I don't want to wait until then to be up with them,
we're good
enough now to go on a run.

Spot on NB, he's been allowed to bring in the players he targeted and now he has to make sure he does his job and gets the best out of them.
I missed Yeovil at home but haven't seen a team yet that are nailed on for promotion from this league. We need to convert more chances no argument but believe Harry, Adam and Hayes will create more opportunities than most and if we could acquire a Schlupp type I'd be lumping a few more quid on us for Championship football next
season.

When have we had such young, talented contracted players like Moore, Logan, Harlee, Adam and Harry? It's a
joy to watch Harry and Adam with the ball at feet, dropping a shoulder and effortlessly gliding past defenders.

If Clayton could have a session with Paul McKenna and
come out believing he can score when he gets in the box we'd be laughing.

[zuko]

That's not what I meant, when has a Bees manager had the luxury of so many good players, we've always been 2 injuries away from an ordinary side but IMO we have good cover and a decent squad thanks to MB. People keep saying that when injuries kick in, Tranny and Stevenage etc will be in trouble, I don't want to wait until then to be up with them, we're good enough now to go on a run.

Fair enough

[scruff puppy pup]

Absolutely spot on. A real delight watching the game yesterday. We beat 11 plus a lino that looked like something out of an early Boris Karloff film and a ref that seemed to spot the slightest infringment by us whilst ignoring blatant fouls and handballs by them .
442 worked in spades. Why change it away? We can always play Kevin if we want it to be a bit tighter during the game.
Uwe must now realise that he just needs to play his best team and even when things are not quite working dont keep tinkering. I just hope that can get a decent striker in on loan if Farid is out for a time.

I think a number of us agree with the Voice, we have some very talented players in our squard now. My concern remains our goalscoring capabilities over the course of 46 league matches. Don't think we will lose too many games this season, but might see a lot of draws.
Here's a thought: Crawley Town are how we'd look if we still had MA as manager.

[beebopalula]

Unbelievable grudging stuff on here from some , ' if he plays the right team [ whatever that means]', 'if he sticks to 4-4-2 [ he hasn't been playing a proper diamond since Harry came in], ' if he stops tinkering'. When you look at the ex Bees players playing for Crawley, you can see that none of them would be good enough to get into our squad. Credit to Uwe for bringing in a higher quality .Fact is we are a bloody good side with a top coach and we have every chance of doing really well if we don't rack up injuries. Give Uwe the credit for turning us into a side that made Crawley look like mugs. More will follow. BTW I sincerely hope he tinkers as much as poss on Tuesday and plays as few outfield first choice players as poss.

[Voice from the Braemar]

Unbelievable grudging stuff on here from some , ' if he plays the right team [ whatever that means]', 'if he sticks to 4-4-2 [ he hasn't been playing a proper diamond since Harry came in], ' if he stops tinkering'. When you look at the ex Bees players playing for Crawley, you can see that none of them would be good enough to get into our squad. Credit to Uwe for bringing in a higher quality .Fact is we are a bloody good side with a top coach and we have every chance of doing really well if we don't rack up injuries. Give Uwe the credit for turning us into a side that made Crawley look like mugs. More will follow. BTW I sincerely hope he tinkers as much as poss on Tuesday and plays as few outfield first choice players as poss.

quality post.....for the comedy factor alone.....uwe's not a god you know, you can actually criticise him if you want to......even he would be honest and say he's mucked up a bit this season.....yesterday was refreshing and i hope he's turned over a new leaf

[Wooburn Bee]

quality post.....for the comedy factor alone.....uwe's not a god you know, you can actually criticise him if you want to......even he would be honest and say he's mucked up a bit this season.....yesterday was refreshing and i hope he's turned over a new leaf

On the Bolton Wanderers fan site one of the proposed possible replacements for Owen Coyle is Uwe Rosler on basis he brings through young players and is tactically astute

[beebopalula]

quality post.....for the comedy factor alone.....uwe's not a god you know, you can actually criticise him if you want to......even he would be honest and say he's mucked up a bit this season.....yesterday was refreshing and i hope he's turned over a new leaf

Who is deifying him? I said he's a top coach and the evidence is before your eyes.We play some of the best football I have seen in 51 years. Feel free to criticise but also have the grace to admit that you might be wrong too. Every coach who makes decisions [ in fact anyone who makes decisions ] gets it wrong sometimes but that doesn't diminish them. You and a few others sit down after things haven't gone well and say it's because he got he team wrong etc when the unarguable fact is that you have no knowledge of whether your suggestions / tactics would have worked. In fact, things may have been even worse. It could so easily have gone wrong yesterday after Logan had a brainstorm and we might have lost. I wouldn't have blamed the manager as you can't do anything about that kind of thing any more than you can do anything about players missing chances. I would suggest you simply acknowledge it was a terrific display of football. Uwe hasn't turned over a new leaf as you suggest, he simply sticks to the same principles.

[FlyBee]

Happy with yesterday's result but knowing the glorious inconsistency that is Uwe's Brentford, we'll get beat on Tuesday and Clayton will miss a hatful.

[FarnhamBee]

Happy with yesterday's result but knowing the glorious inconsistency that is Uwe's Brentford, we'll get beat on Tuesday and Clayton will miss a hatful.

Look on the bright side why dontcha

[sonofabee]

Happy with yesterday's result but knowing the glorious inconsistency that is Uwe's Brentford, we'll get beat on Tuesday and Clayton will miss a hatful.

Does anyone really care as long as we win at Scunthorpe?

[Bill Benn]

Does anyone really care as long as we win at Scunthorpe?

I don't ,

[FlyBee]

Look on the bright side why dontcha

Half tongue in cheek, but can't do the rolley eyes thing on a phone!

[Houghton Bee]

Does anyone really care as long as we win at Scunthorpe?

getting out of this division (upwards, of course) has to be our priority.

[To Bee Someone]

Two interesting away games coming up which I'm sure will act as a gauge of people's stance on Uwe. We will probably look at getting a win at Scunny but Doncaster is another tricky looking one, they seem to have had a similar start to our own.
Have to say that anyone doubting Uwe should look at the way we have responded to home setbacks (Yeovil and Shrewsbury) in the following League game (Crewe and Crawley). Certainly shows he can muster a response from his players. This said, I agree with a lot of other posters that Uwe should be making teams worry about us rather than trying to counteract an opposing team's tactics

[beebopalula]

Two interesting away games coming up which I'm sure will act as a gauge of people's stance on Uwe. We will probably look at getting a win at Scunny but Doncaster is another tricky looking one, they seem to have had a similar start to our own.
Have to say that anyone doubting Uwe should look at the way we have responded to home setbacks (Yeovil and Shrewsbury) in the following League game (Crewe and Crawley). Certainly shows he can muster a response from his players. This said, I agree with a lot of other posters that Uwe should be making teams worry about us rather than trying to counteract an opposing team's tactics

I'm sure he tries to do both things which is what all good coaches do. He has said as much.

[beebopalula]

Two interesting away games coming up which I'm sure will act as a gauge of people's stance on Uwe. We will probably look at getting a win at Scunny but Doncaster is another tricky looking one, they seem to have had a similar start to our own.
Have to say that anyone doubting Uwe should look at the way we have responded to home setbacks (Yeovil and Shrewsbury) in the following League game (Crewe and Crawley). Certainly shows he can muster a response from his players. This said, I agree with a lot of other posters that Uwe should be making teams worry about us rather than trying to counteract an opposing team's tactics

Donny are a decent side. They play the right way.

[IslandBee]

Unbelievable grudging stuff on here from some , ' if he plays the right team [ whatever that means]', 'if he sticks to 4-4-2 [ he hasn't been playing a proper diamond since Harry came in], ' if he stops tinkering'. When you look at the ex Bees players playing for Crawley, you can see that none of them would be good enough to get into our squad. Credit to Uwe for bringing in a higher quality .Fact is we are a bloody good side with a top coach and we have every chance of doing really well if we don't rack up injuries. Give Uwe the credit for turning us into a side that made Crawley look like mugs. More will follow. BTW I sincerely hope he tinkers as much as poss on Tuesday and plays as few outfield first choice players as poss.

He dropped Harry against Shrewsbury (ie the last game before Saturday!) which also featured the diamond. I sincerely hope your are right and it has now gone for good, but I thought that after AFCB and predictions of its death proved premature. I certainly agree that Uwe deserves a lot of credit but we now need to start delivering performances like yesterday week-in-week-out, and that means no more reversions to a system that patently doesn't work

[beebopalula]

He dropped Harry against Shrewsbury (ie the last game before Saturday!) which also featured the diamond. I sincerely hope your are right and it has now gone for good, but I thought that after AFCB and predictions of its death proved premature. I certainly agree that Uwe deserves a lot of credit but we now need to start delivering performances like yesterday week-in-week-out, and that means no more reversions to a system that patently doesn't work

Disagree with your notion that we played a diamond formation vs Shrewsbury. Who was playing at the head of the diamond? As I've said, we haven't IMO played a true diamond with someone sitting in the hole since Sam dropped out.It was the same formation vs Crawley-the difference was that we took a chance in the first half and got our noses in front.As we know, goals change games.

[Billy Hunt]

Feel free to criticise but also have the grace to admit that you might be wrong too.

Dosn't happen often on here.

[IslandBee]

Disagree with your notion that we played a diamond formation vs Shrewsbury. Who was playing at the head of the diamond? As I've said, we haven't IMO played a true diamond with someone sitting in the hole since Sam dropped out.It was the same formation vs Crawley-the difference was that we took a chance in the first half and got our noses in front.As we know, goals change games.

Sam dropped out after Colchester but we still played the diamond at AFCB with Forshaw at its head. My information about the Shrewsbury game is from the reports so if you think we didn't play the diamond in that match I will not argue with you. However, what is indisputable is that Forrester was dropped again and we didn't play with sufficient width.
On the bigger issue, however, I am generally with you: we have much better players now than 18 months ago; we are playing a much better brand of football; and for this Uwe deserves a significant amount of credit. It's just that he can be incredibly frustrating at times!