The Uwe Rösler Thread

[Balders Bee]

I see some of the moaners are creeping out now. Instead of acknowledging how well we played and got our just reward in the end, there's some sniping. Quite frankly that just about blows any credibility they think they might have had. We are a very good side with a very good manager. There are challenges and we saw them last night but they aren't tactical they are to do with not converting chances and lapses in concentration.That will improve with time and everyone around me last night in the New Road was accepting that we have made massive progress.

Not sure that everyone who asks a question or expresses an alternative opinion deserves to be called a moaner or loses credibility by expressing an opinion much in the same way that you don't deserve to be castigated as one of the founder members of the RTB. Good win last night, excellent performances from talented young players in our squad. Concerns remain about the pigacy of our strikers. Uwe got it tactically right last night but arguably wrong on Saturday at Doncaster.

You see a "good side with a very good manager" I see a "talented squad with an ambitious manager who has it all to prove".

[shouldbee]

Not sure that everyone who asks a question or expresses an alternative opinion deserves to be called a moaner or loses credibility by expressing an opinion much in the same way that you don't deserve to be castigated as one of the founder members of the RTB. Good win last night, excellent performances from talented young players in our squad. Concerns remain about the pigacy of our strikers. Uwe got it tactically right last night but arguably wrong on Saturday at Doncaster.

You see a "good side with a very good manager" I see a "talented squad with an ambitious manager who has it all to prove".

Good assessment of where we are. What impressed me last night was the last 15/ 20 minutes when the boys were really going for it, and continued to play football on the deck despite some of the usual fools yelling to " get it forward"...........no they didn't go route one and it paid off.....hats off to Uwe's philosophy...

[BedfontRed]

I see some of the moaners are creeping out now. Instead of acknowledging how well we played and got our just reward in the end, there's some sniping. Quite frankly that just about blows any credibility they think they might have had. We are a very good side with a very good manager. There are challenges and we saw them last night but they aren't tactical they are to do with not converting chances and lapses in concentration.That will improve with time and everyone around me last night in the New Road was accepting that we have made massive progress.

Thats a bit rich as this is a discussion forum that would not exist without the Extreme RTB & D & G brigade and all those in between. Never really had a problem with the home tactics as Uwe has now after a shaky first 20 and our strikers misfiring yesterday got about right. Its the away tactics and set up that he has to get right. No wins in seven however well we are playing is poor.

[abee4life]

We should already be in the playoffs. We've dropped 3 points at Doncaster, 3 points at Orient, 2 at Scunthorpe and thats just of the top of my head and what's frustrating is its been because of the same tactical flaw, e.g. strikers that don't convert chances and playing a very rigid midfield with little creativity.

What team do you support?

[Kingston Bee]

I see some of the moaners are creeping out now. Instead of acknowledging how well we played and got our just reward in the end, there's some sniping. Quite frankly that just about blows any credibility they think they might have had. We are a very good side with a very good manager. There are challenges and we saw them last night but they aren't tactical they are to do with not converting chances and lapses in concentration.That will improve with time and everyone around me last night in the New Road was accepting that we have made massive progress.

In fairness I am usually at the opposite end of the scale to you on this subject but do respect the points you make. Last night credit where it is due we played very well for long periods. Hayes is a worry, he was awful, I just hope he comes good, if not it could seriously undermine any hope of the top 6. Where I think we are polls apart is the tactical thing. Last night apart, Uwe has on numerous occasions snatched a draw or defeat from victory, and continues to try an close out games from winning positions unsuccessfully. This has cost us 6, 7 or 8 points this season alone imo. I am not convinced he has learned from this, and have seen nothing from him to suggest otherwise. I will only change my opinion on him when we stop throwing away points after getting into winning positions.

[magicbees]

Not sure that everyone who asks a question or expresses an alternative opinion deserves to be called a moaner or loses credibility by expressing an opinion much in the same way that you don't deserve to be castigated as one of the founder members of the RTB. Good win last night, excellent performances from talented young players in our squad. Concerns remain about the pigacy of our strikers. Uwe got it tactically right last night but arguably wrong on Saturday at Doncaster.

You see a "good side with a very good manager" I see a "talented squad with an ambitious manager who has it all to prove".

Good Post

[beebopalula]

Thats a bit rich as this is a discussion forum that would not exist without the Extreme RTB & D & G brigade and all those in between. Never really had a problem with the home tactics as Uwe has now after a shaky first 20 and our strikers misfiring yesterday got about right. Its the away tactics and set up that he has to get right. No wins in seven however well we are playing is poor.

We're going to have to disagree on the away tactics. I think the same issues have bedevilled us away as exist at home i.e not taking a fair return on chances created and lapses in concentration. That's nothing to do with tactics. If Clayton had buried that back pass at Donny [ as he should have] things may have been very different. It wasn't tactics which saw our central defence ball watching at Donny and Scunthorpe and you can't legislate for the blooter goals. 4-5-1 isn't a defensive formation. It does give you numerical superiority in a key area but mid players need to accept their responsibility and push into the box. That's what they did last night. If you go 4-4-2 away it opens up the game and IMO invites even more pressure. Uwe is a top coach with the highest coaching qualifications and I respect his approach to games.Calling him tactically naive is a bit silly isn't it as I suspect that the hindsight critics haven't got anything to teach him or the rest of the management team. I would point out that I'm not a slavish admirer. For example I would play Fredericks or Dallas in a 4-5-1 away to give us a bigger threat with pace from midfield but the manager makes his decisions. I just don't think Uwe has had much luck but he got and deserved a bit of luck with the pen which IMO was soft. There is the old adage that good footballing sides get stronger as the season progresses and I believe in old adages. Let's see where we go from here. We can beat anyone in this league with our playing style provided we up our mental discipline and take a fair return of our chances as we create more than enough both home and away.

[Porgey]

We should already be in the playoffs. We've dropped 3 points at Doncaster, 3 points at Orient, 2 at Scunthorpe and thats just of the top of my head and what's frustrating is its been because of the same tactical flaw, e.g. strikers that don't convert chances and playing a very rigid midfield with little creativity.

Swindon have dropped 5 points from a winning position in the last two games. By your logic they should still be ahead of us anyway so I wouldn't worry too much.

[eaglebee]

The booing of Hayes marred the evening for me. Absolute disgrace. I've never done that to a Bees player. If any posters reading this gave Hayes grief then go hang your head in shame. I felt for him and although it was blowing up in his face, he never hid.

Quite Correct, I thought Uwe got it spot on last night, Those booing are not the real face of BFC supporters, they are all mindles, spineless, morons, who collectively could not muster 1 brain cell between them, I just wish they would go away and support another team, or just go away, as they are not needed here.

[bostonhanwell]

Quite Correct, I thought Uwe got it spot on last night, Those booing are not the real face of BFC supporters, they are all mindles, spineless, morons, who collectively could not muster 1 brain cell between them, I just wish they would go away and support another team, or just go away, as they are not needed here.

Could not agree more. Hayes is a good footballer going through a bad patch. Form is temporary class is permanent. Sure we all get frustrated but some people carry on like we should be walking this division which is absolute nonsense. Coventry for example have a budget of £4 million this season.

[BURFORD BEE]

I wasn't at the game last night and wont be on Saturday as family matters ( youngest son getting wed in Canada ) have taken precedence.
It would seem though by reading the reports that once again we played he opposition off the park but were very lucky to get the win by virtue of an iffy penalty in the last minute of play.
Whilst being one of what a certain gentleman calls moaners, I am very glad that the 3 points still keeps us in touch with the top 6. I have absolutely no wish to be proved right over my reservations with regards to the manager and will happily eat humble pie or most anything else if we get promoted this year.However a look at our 6 fixtures from the 17th November fills me with a sense of dread rather than expectation. Preston, Swindon and Notts County away. MK Dons, Shef Utd and Stevenage at home. Unless we can find some consistency and goals from our strikers by the middle of November we will be very fortunate to still be in contention come Christmas.
If and its a very big if we are still there or there abouts by then I will be looking in Boots for a suitably tinted pair of specs for the rest of the season!

[Kettering Bee]

I'm in Spain upset that I missed a good performance last night.

I wish we could look at things from a half full rather than half empty perspective.

Of course there is a lot to improve but for God's sake lets enjoy things as well as moan.

Football is supposed to be our hobby isn't it?

Someone said on here the other day that he will support Rosler if we win the next game and call for him to be sacked if we lose it.

Ridiculous.

You're in Spain? Now, I'm not one to start rumours, but I know someone else that's out there, currently.

I think you may have disclosed a little too much about your lifestyle NLB!

[wayfarer172]

I wasn't at the game last night and wont be on Saturday as family matters ( youngest son getting wed in Canada ) have taken precedence.
It would seem though by reading the reports that once again we played he opposition off the park but were very lucky to get the win by virtue of an iffy penalty in the last minute of play.
Whilst being one of what a certain gentleman calls moaners, I am very glad that the 3 points still keeps us in touch with the top 6. I have absolutely no wish to be proved right over my reservations with regards to the manager and will happily eat humble pie or most anything else if we get promoted this year.However a look at our 6 fixtures from the 17th November fills me with a sense of dread rather than expectation. Preston, Swindon and Notts County away. MK Dons, Shef Utd and Stevenage at home. Unless we can find some consistency and goals from our strikers by the middle of November we will be very fortunate to still be in contention come Christmas.
If and its a very big if we are still there or there abouts by then I will be looking in Boots for a suitably tinted pair of specs for the rest of the season!

Nothing iffy about the penalty at all young man. HF was on his way to his 2nd goal and was brutally hacked down.

[BedfontRed]

We're going to have to disagree on the away tactics. I think the same issues have bedevilled us away as exist at home i.e not taking a fair return on chances created and lapses in concentration. That's nothing to do with tactics. If Clayton had buried that back pass at Donny [ as he should have] things may have been very different. It wasn't tactics which saw our central defence ball watching at Donny and Scunthorpe and you can't legislate for the blooter goals. 4-5-1 isn't a defensive formation. It does give you numerical superiority in a key area but mid players need to accept their responsibility and push into the box. That's what they did last night. If you go 4-4-2 away it opens up the game and IMO invites even more pressure. Uwe is a top coach with the highest coaching qualifications and I respect his approach to games.Calling him tactically naive is a bit silly isn't it as I suspect that the hindsight critics haven't got anything to teach him or the rest of the management team. I would point out that I'm not a slavish admirer. For example I would play Fredericks or Dallas in a 4-5-1 away to give us a bigger threat with pace from midfield but the manager makes his decisions. I just don't think Uwe has had much luck but he got and deserved a bit of luck with the pen which IMO was soft. There is the old adage that good footballing sides get stronger as the season progresses and I believe in old adages. Let's see where we go from here. We can beat anyone in this league with our playing style provided we up our mental discipline and take a fair return of our chances as we create more than enough both home and away.

Not yet he isn't. He may well be in the future and I hope he suceeds with us but I believe he still learning and yes I believe at times he is tactically naive, concerntrating too much on what the opposition might do to us rather than playing to our strengths and taking the game to them.

[beebopalula]

Not yet he isn't. He may well be in the future and I hope he suceeds with us but I believe he still learning and yes I believe at times he is tactically naive, concerntrating too much on what the opposition might do to us rather than playing to our strengths and taking the game to them.

Maybe if you don't seek to nullify the oppo you just might get poked?

[Voice from the Braemar]

Quite Correct, I thought Uwe got it spot on last night, Those booing are not the real face of BFC supporters, they are all mindles, spineless, morons, who collectively could not muster 1 brain cell between them, I just wish they would go away and support another team, or just go away, as they are not needed here.

not correct.....there wasnt any boo-ing just sarcastic clapping.....theres a big big difference.....the sarcastic clapping was for a substitution which was long overdue due to the fact that hayes was having a stinker and we have another centre forward on loan from huddersfield twiddling his thumbs and chomping at the bit to get on and show us what he's got.....uwe got it right by making the sub and the crowd were happy that a change was made.....we went on to win which was the most important thing but some on here just focus on these insignificant things which in the long run arent at all important.......WE WON THE GAME....i couldnt give a flying if hayes isnt happy as to be honest he hasnt exactly made me happy over the last 3mnths.....its the team which is important not just him

[BedfontRed]

Maybe if you don't seek to nullify the oppo you just might get poked?

We have been Poked quite a few times while trying to nulify the opposition.

[beebopalula]

We have been Poked quite a few times while trying to nulify the opposition.

Ah but how do you know you wouldn't have got a nastier lesson? You can't know-it's pure conjecture.

[beebopalula]

I wasn't at the game last night and wont be on Saturday as family matters ( youngest son getting wed in Canada ) have taken precedence.
It would seem though by reading the reports that once again we played he opposition off the park but were very lucky to get the win by virtue of an iffy penalty in the last minute of play.
Whilst being one of what a certain gentleman calls moaners, I am very glad that the 3 points still keeps us in touch with the top 6. I have absolutely no wish to be proved right over my reservations with regards to the manager and will happily eat humble pie or most anything else if we get promoted this year.However a look at our 6 fixtures from the 17th November fills me with a sense of dread rather than expectation. Preston, Swindon and Notts County away. MK Dons, Shef Utd and Stevenage at home. Unless we can find some consistency and goals from our strikers by the middle of November we will be very fortunate to still be in contention come Christmas.
If and its a very big if we are still there or there abouts by then I will be looking in Boots for a suitably tinted pair of specs for the rest of the season!

Why be frightened of them? If we play the right way, concentrate and take our chances, we are as good as anything in this league. I think these games will bring out the best in us.

[jlove]

Playing one up front away and then effectively 3 holding midfielders and only one winger ...

That's only 5 when we usually have 6 midfield + up front. I believe Dallas the only player you could describe as a "winger" and, recently, only Toumani and O'Connor have played in the holding position. I suggest that you get someone to explain formations and postions to you next time you watch.

[Headbee]

not correct.....there wasnt any boo-ing just sarcastic clapping.....theres a big big difference.....the sarcastic clapping was for a substitution which was long overdue due to the fact that hayes was having a stinker and we have another centre forward on loan from huddersfield twiddling his thumbs and chomping at the bit to get on and show us what he's got.....uwe got it right by making the sub and the crowd were happy that a change was made.....we went on to win which was the most important thing but some on here just focus on these insignificant things which in the long run arent at all important.......WE WON THE GAME....i couldnt give a flying if hayes isnt happy as to be honest he hasnt exactly made me happy over the last 3mnths.....its the team which is important not just him

I have to agree with VFTB comments - there was no booing from the middle of the Ealing Road, just applause for the rather late substitution.

[North London Bee]

You're in Spain? Now, I'm not one to start rumours, but I know someone else that's out there, currently.

I think you may have disclosed a little too much about your lifestyle NLB!

Damn, he told me not to let on!

[Voice from the Braemar]

I have to agree with VFTB comments - there was no booing from the middle of the Ealing Road, just applause for the rather late substitution.

christ, agreeing with me will have all (not that many though !) the PH fan club up in arms

and i still reckon clayton had one of his best games for us last night though.....worked tirelessly down the right hand side 2nd half and was behind most of our creative moments.....but still the anti-clayton brigade will say how cr@p he is

[ruislip bee]

I have to agree with VFTB comments - there was no booing from the middle of the Ealing Road, just applause for the rather late substitution.

Well I was sat in the middle of New Road where idiots were booing and chanting off,off,off at Hayes after the last header just before he was subbed. Do these idiots really think that helps?

[hobbsy]

I have to agree with VFTB comments - there was no booing from the middle of the Ealing Road, just applause for the rather late substitution.

It was a sarcastic cheer as well, which IMHO was over the top.