He'll play centre back, we have no left backs signed to us yetOriginally Posted by ICANBEEFORMILES
He'll play centre back, we have no left backs signed to us yet
5 out (Bean,Balkenstein,Wood,Woodman,Osbourne) and 4 in (Craig,El Aghuri,Dean,Forshaw), 2 of which were on loan last season. With only 2 weeks to go im a little worried our squad is a bit the same as last year with only 2 real new additions. Add to that we have lost 2 cb and a lb and only replaced 1. Im trying not to be pesamistic but overall im not really that impressed with our summer activity. Fingers crossed something happens next week.
Dallas is also an "in" whilst Eger (and technically Alexander) are also "outs". Three of those you mentioned (Wood, Pim, Woodman) barely featured last season so not certain they need to be "replaced" though other than with loans / good academy players as needed.
We definitely need a left back though and realistically one more striker as an absolute bare minimum
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You're not being pessemistic Stormbee, you're being realistic. This doesn't look like a promotion squad ....YET....but I trust Uwe has some new signings we probably haven't even seen pre-season. The way I see it, Uwe's reputation is on the line this season and I expect MB's minimum requirements / expectations are a top six finish. The Manager has had a long look at all his players and we have to trust he knows what he's doing. The signings of Forshaw and Dean look top drawer, Craig should be our new Captain, but IMO we still have 3 players who I would not have kept for a real promotion push, but hey-ho it's all about opinions
Football is not a matter of life or death, it's more important than that.
Stormbee, appreciate it's getting close to the start of the season but just look at the majority of clubs all of which are still trying to get players in and out. I have no doubt that more players will be arriving be it signed or loanees. The trickle effect from the top will come into play, eg Chelsea want to bring in more but have to release some first, they will be taken up somewhere with players further down the pyramid becoming surplus !!
As it stands I believe our squad is better than it was, we have some decent ball players and fully expect our midfield to score goals this season. Yes would be lovely to have a proven striker but that costs money. Think that Mathews comments re juniors is appropriate. We are building from bottom up with no big signings, and that to me seems the way forward even if we have to show a little more patience!!
If a triallist is successful then I guess its a cheap addition .They wont be main signing targets who I guess we can expect in the next week or so.
Hypnotise the lot of 'em !
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Spot on as usual Sir Pipe! It is my firm view that you don't dismantle a half decent squad of players completely, start from scratch and expect to do well, the top clubs don't do it an neither should we. When players leave the team dynamic alters and, as this seem to be a harmonious squad with good team spirit and genuine quality in terms of current, new and developing players, why unessecarily upset it through wholesale change??? You need to adjust and augment not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
You cannot underestimate the importance genuine team unison and utilising players to create a synergy has on performance (sorry for the buzzwords). Alf Ramsey, Clough & Fergie (not Blackeyed Peas one) all managed to bring the best out of teams rather than merely collecting the most gifted players together. The Gallacticos of Real Madrid won less than the sum of it's parts would have suggested.
Stuart Lancaster is taking this approach with his new look England rugby squad and I predict he will do well because of it
I see Uwe building a geniuely good squad with each player playing to their strengths in their positions within his method. He has brought in known quantities (Dean & Forshaw) which is a huge plus (how many "good" signings have we made close season to see them shipped out or loaned as they haven't lived up to expectation), a solid Championship quality leader, a bit of a gamble in Farid and one for the future in Dallas.
I would suggest that we have gone 5 steps forward and one back (KO). There is still time and if we could make another couple of steps forward (which could, instead of new signings, be Reeves & Oyeleke really stepping up), coupled with a fanatstic team spirit, we can be right up there challenging!
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This is an excellent, insightful and nailed on post IMO; particuarly the analogy about how Alf Ramsey so successfully integrated players like Roger Hunt and Nobby Stiles into his pattern of play and unity of his Team and how he moulded these guys in preference to the 'pure' flair and charisma of people like Greavsie.
I continue to be impressed (and grateful) for the progress the Club is making literally across the board, the land at Kew, the superb Milk Cup result, and not least in the context of these posts the ability of the Management Team to attract quality, experienced people like Craig and to fend off the competition for guys with real potential like Farid and Dallas.
The future in the wider sense hasn't looked brighter for generations IMO.
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One more striker certainly required. Here's hoping. We need to be stronger going into the first game than we were into the first game a year ago.
I'll be damned: that post is probably one of the best ones seen on here for some time and fully explains where we are and where we are going extremely well put and gives some real clarity
So any potential signings on the way? It's all gone abit quiet.
I expect some news this coming week, the squads been in Germany so obviously signings couldn't be made, but that's no longer an excuse and the season isn't far off now.
I still think signings could still of been made even though the squad have been in germany, ive noticed that other teams who are also on there pre season tour have still made signings.
Just abit concerned our curresnt squad still isnt strong enough to challenge for promortion.
There's still time, but Rosler wouldn't have been around for the last week. I expect that steps were taken forward in terms of signings, but maybe wait until this week or next....
I don't expect loads more in, one or two but we'll have to wait and see.
It is a diffuclt situation that needs patience and diplomacy.
We all know we want Bidwell and there is obviously a date by which time Everton have promised a decision. If not I am sure there is a plan B.
As for the strikers I am sure we are in competition for our desired option(s) and again, as we come into August then players and their agents will make their mind up.
I think the next 10 days are crucial and that I would expect 2-3 incomings within that period.
Excellent post
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A full explanation would include a reference to the need to score goals. That's essentially where we came up short last season and it still looks to me likely that that will be the reason we finish between sixth and ninth this coming term. Still not convinced this side has enough goals in it. Hope I'm wrong.
To be fair one of the main reasons we had a lack of goals was the lack of creativity in midfield.
That problem has been addressed
Agreed. Also we had a young developing squad last year but the only problem was those players developing wern't ours. Now we have 2 fantastic prospects signed up for first team duties (plus Forrester and Shay are still improving) and players like Reeves, Mawson, Mani, Norris, Redwood and German on the fringes. Have we ever had so many young talents? It's such an exciting time to be a Bee.
MW also mentioned the possibility of getting two Sporting Lisbon players on loan, I doubt he would mention it if there wasn't a good chance it could happen. My thoughts are that it may already be agreed in principle, but like most teams they will want them training with them up until the latest possible point before they are needed by their loan clubs, espcecially given they are based in Portugal they cannot go back and train a couple of days a week like most loanees.
Where, and by what signing ??
I think the addition of Dallas and Forshaw have helped.
We done well towards the end of the season after what can only be best described as a slow start to the use of our new formation. I think we got the players to play the creative stuff we want to see already and we should now see much more improved play from our boys.
Probably by signing a 'creative' midfielder and Dallas plus a 25+ goal a season striker to get on the end of those balls.
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