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GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

Just had notification Action Required: Resubscribe to The Grapevine to keep your membership benefits - is this you have cancelled paypal?
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

Just had notification Action Required: Resubscribe to The Grapevine to keep your membership benefits - is this you have cancelled paypal?
Are you asking me? No, nothing has changed this end. So unsure what may have occurred here.
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

Are you asking me? No, nothing has changed this end. So unsure what may have occurred here.
This is what was sent in an email
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No idea what's happened but it would appear to be between you and Paypal (e.g. has your card that you used to pay via Paypal expired?)

Anyway, if you could re-subscribe then that would be appreciated :)
 

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ok - re-added payment type - no option to use paypal.
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

I received an identical message about PayPal. I shall re subscribe using another payment method
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

ok - re-added payment type - no option to use paypal.
Ahhhhh, BMAC no longer use Paypal!

Don't forget you can set-up a STO direct to the GPG bank account, details in first post of this thread.


Hi The Grapevine,

I’m Jijo, founder of Buy Me a Coffee. I regret to inform you that we’re discontinuing our partnership with PayPal. This means that PayPal payments will eventually be unsupported on the platform. I’m reaching out because we can see that PayPal is your only selected payment method, and your earnings will be affected. We’ve made it easier for you to choose an alternative payment method:

  1. Go to your Buy Me a Coffee dashboard.
  2. Select Payouts tab from the Settings page.
  3. Choose Stripe or the Standard payout. Both of these options are reliable and cheaper than PayPal. Once a payout method is enabled, your page will be ready to accept credit cards, Apple Pay, and Google Pay.
With Stripe, the money will go directly into your bank account within two business days. Stripe is available in 40 countries.

Standard Payout can be enabled in one click, and we will start accepting payments on your behalf. You can withdraw the balance to your bank account (in over 150 countries) any time you like.

We are as distressed as you are because of PayPal’s decision and have tried everything in our power to avoid this over the past few months. I wanted to address this issue personally because you, as a creator, mean everything to us, and we know what every coffee/support means to you. We understand if none of these options work for you, but this is the best we can do at this moment.

Please refer to this live FAQ Page for additional guidance. It's a living document and we'll add more questions as we hear them.

Regards,
Jijo
CEO, Buy Me a Coffee
 

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If you want to use BMAC rather than set-up at STO then here is how to change your membership from Paypal

Can I recommend the STO, as was very easy to set up, especially if you do internet banking. If we are to fund Nanas PL-ready yacht, then would far prefer that 25percent doesn’t get eaten up in charges along the way. And if we are to spend £30m on transfer targets he may need to chip in at some point !
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

Done (one off 10 coffees), thanks to everyone who does mod work here and especially to Banana.
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)


I've been running this forum for over 20 years now. As well as time spent actually running it, I have also paid for the not inconsiderable sums of running-it over that period. This includes: hosting of the servers; bandwidth charges; storage; off-site back-ups costs; email services; software licenses; software support costs. All those services are provided professionally which you will have noticed from the exceptional reliability of the GPG.

I've never asked for any assistance for costs as during that time fans were either throwing coins into buckets, donating money via monthly Standing Orders to Bees United, taking out Bees United Loan Notes and doing whatever else was required to keep the club afloat. After that, Matthew has been pumping in over £100m and it seemed churlish to ask for money when Matthew was parting with so much cash. During the entirety of this time the GPG has remained (despite some 'attractive offers') ad-free. A concious decision that I believe has provided you with a vastly better experience than otherwise. A quick look at other forums will demonstrate that.

Additionally, the GPG has provided fans with
  • Lockdown Zoom Calls with Phil Giles, Thomas Frank, Jon Varney, Kevin O'Connor, Sam Saunders and Martin Allen
  • Hours of footage and thousands of pictures of the new stadium during construction via the Brentford FC Drone;
  • Provided you with the ability to put questions to Matthew, Thomas and others via our regular interviews and meet-ups.
  • The @bfcgpg Twitter account
and we would certainly look to continue to provide similar activities.

Now that the club is financially stable (thanks to you-know-who and our recent promotion), I am asking for some entirely voluntarily donations to defray the costs.

Nothing will change with regards to anyone's access to the GPG regardless of if you decide to support the running costs of it or not.

You can send us money directly to (ideally via a recurring payment) to:
60-00-01
48754145
(Account Name: me)

Alternatively, Buy Me a Coffee is our platform for donations. Please consider setting-up a "Membership" - which is a recurring monthly payment from £2 to £20. Otherwise you can "Support" us by purchasing 1 or more coffees at £2 a time on an one-off basis. For £2 monthly payment please avoid using Paypal as they absorb 25% of such smaller transactions. Consider a annual payment instead, or using Stripe, or a recurring payment as mentioned above)

Buy me a Coffee is available here: The Grapevine is providing a forum for West London Premier League Fans


Thank you.
Ok finally got signed up for a monthly!
After a number of years of posting in wrong threads and places & still no better at it!!
But enjoying the fun and opinions and slagging off and most of all finding out what really going on a Brentford FC!!?
 

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Google Calendar just gave me my first annual reminder to contribute something.
Now, what's a year of ad-free GPG goodness worth to me? And is the GPG going to sponsor MBS' long-overdue haircut?
 

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Thanks @Pixelator and everyone else that has contributed to the GPG over the past year.

For those of you that contributed annually this time last year, please consider renewing your support. I know that some of you will have done this via BuyMeACoffee last year, but they've changed the way they work and dropped one of their payment options, so if you did pay via BMAC, can you please check if what you expected to happen, happened please?

For those wishing to make direct bank transfers (which also means that BMAC and Stripe don't both take their cuts...) bank details are

Sort Code: 60-00-01
Acct Number: 48754145
Acct Name: Inns TJ

Many thanks again, and hopefully we'll be able to bring you some good CE news very soon.
 
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GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

Thanks @Pixelator and everyone else that has contributed to the GPG over the past year.

For those of you that contributed annually this time last year, please consider renewing your support. I know that some of you will have done this via BuyMeACoffee last year, but they've changed the way they work and dropped one of their payment options, so if you did pay via BMAC, can you please check if what you expected to happen, happened please?

For those wishing to make direct bank transfers (which also means that BMAC and Stripe don't both take their cuts...) bank details are

Sort Code: 60-00-01
Acct Number: 48754145
Acct Name: Trevor Inns

Many thanks again, and hopefully we'll be able to bring you some good CE news very soon.
Banana, why hat is this pronounced with:
1. ITK hat
or
2. Bottlehalffull, “we-are-going-to-finish-2021/22-in-top-half”, hat ? (You were so nearly right - only prevented by Sergi’s shirt!)
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

Thanks to everyone that is contributing. I would re-iterate that no-one need to contribute and that you mustn't contribute if you can't afford it especially as there is a cost of living challenge going on.

One thing that has been raised by several people is that they would like to see some sort of podcast as part of the GPG offering. It's something that has been under light consideration but we are keen to not duplicate anything similar to Beesotted. Not only that, but once you start you can't stop (except if you are a manufactured band such as the Punjabees of course).

I'm keen to hear views on whether me and others talking crap with others would be of interest. Views please.
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

Thanks to everyone that is contributing. I would re-iterate that no-one need to contribute and that you mustn't contribute if you can't afford it especially as there is a cost of living challenge going on.

One thing that has been raised by several people is that they would like to see some sort of podcast as part of the GPG offering. It's something that has been under light consideration but we are keen to not duplicate anything similar to Beesotted. Not only that, but once you start you can't stop (except if you are a manufactured band such as the Punjabees of course).

I'm keen to hear views on whether me and others talking crap with others would be of interest. Views please.
I think the ideal formula might be some repeat of the Covid interviews where you pick a Brentford stalwart eg Andy Scott or Martin Allan. Ie do this on a highly irregular and occasional basis, and collect questions in advance. Quality not quantity. Maybe include as guests Bees fans who have given great service at one time or other. Perhaps other members of club staff, if the club will allow - eg Sally Stephens, who I know previously worked on the stadium project before her current fan based role.
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

I think the ideal formula might be some repeat of the Covid interviews where you pick a Brentford stalwart eg Andy Scott or Martin Allan. Ie do this on a highly irregular and occasional basis, and collect questions in advance. Quality not quantity. Maybe include as guests Bees fans who have given great service at one time or other. Perhaps other members of club staff, if the club will allow - eg Sally Stephens, who I know previously worked on the stadium project before her current fan based role.
My initial reaction was "no thanks", but the kind of high quality guest based podcast such as above would be high value. But the regular format of a few "lads" shooting the sh*te, no thanks.
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

Does the world need yet more people sat in a room talking about football?
 

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GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

My initial reaction was "no thanks", but the kind of high quality guest based podcast such as above would be high value. But the regular format of a few "lads" shooting the sh*te, no thanks.
I imagine it would be something like the excellent Frost Tapes podcast, with Banana starting each episode with, “hello, good evening, and welcome…”
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

I imagine it would be something like the excellent Frost Tapes podcast, with Banana starting each episode with, “hello, good evening, and welcome…”
Could catch on...

Do a BFC version of 'Through the Keyhole.'

@sonofabee travels round London, viewing players' homes,under the auspices of fitting them with the latest Sky upgrade. Takes some film footage while he's there.

Cut back to GPG Towers with, "Who lives in a house like this? Trevor, it's over to you..."
 

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In the meantime, can you get on and donate please. There's a dinner with abee tomorrow!
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

In the meantime, can you get on and donate please. There's a dinner with abee tomorrow!
Hope my contribution, which I had confirmed this week helped.
? ?
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

With Christmas approaching it seemed like a good time to make another one off donation. I'll try to make it an annual thing.
Thanks to everyone who contributes to keep this site going.
Merry Christmas, everyone!
 

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Monthly postal-order on its way…
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

Thanks to those above, much appreciated.

What with the cost of living crisis there's no need to donate if you cannot afford to. Please review your regular donations if you wish to do so.

In other news, I received Pinnock's shirt from our kit sponsorship of his. It's a bit small for me, so in time honoured fashion we will be giving it away to those that have provided a donation (not matter the size of said donation). Details to follow, but it will probably be in the summer.

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I just tried (twice) to pay £20 by card, but I think it was rejected both times? I've either paid £40 or nothing (from the link in the first post on the thread - using 'support'). Please advise.
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

I just tried (twice) to pay £20 by card, but I think it was rejected both times? I've either paid £40 or nothing (from the link in the first post on the thread - using 'support'). Please advise.
When you pay by card it asked for your postcode. Are you filling-in that field?

Note you can always do a bank transfer (details in post #1)
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

Hello, is it possible to send a donation using Revolut?
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

Hello, is it possible to send a donation using Revolut?
If it makes bank transfers then yes - details in 1st post.

You can pay via Paypal,
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

Is the monthly subscription the preferred option, or does it not matter much? I was gonna just chuck in a one-off, but as you mentioned the monthly thing first, thought I'd ask...
Hello my credit card seems to be set to pay £60 annually how can I cancel this?
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

Hello my credit card seems to be set to pay £60 annually how can I cancel this?
I suspect you’ll need to go to buymeacoffee and change your subscription there
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)


I've been running this forum for over 20 years now. As well as time spent actually running it, I have also paid for the not inconsiderable sums of running-it over that period. This includes: hosting of the servers; bandwidth charges; storage; off-site back-ups costs; email services; software licenses; software support costs. All those services are provided professionally which you will have noticed from the exceptional reliability of the GPG.

I've never asked for any assistance for costs as during that time fans were either throwing coins into buckets, donating money via monthly Standing Orders to Bees United, taking out Bees United Loan Notes and doing whatever else was required to keep the club afloat. After that, Matthew has been pumping in over £100m and it seemed churlish to ask for money when Matthew was parting with so much cash. During the entirety of this time the GPG has remained (despite some 'attractive offers') ad-free. A concious decision that I believe has provided you with a vastly better experience than otherwise. A quick look at other forums will demonstrate that.

Additionally, the GPG has provided fans with
  • Lockdown Zoom Calls with Phil Giles, Thomas Frank, Jon Varney, Kevin O'Connor, Sam Saunders and Martin Allen
  • Hours of footage and thousands of pictures of the new stadium during construction via the Brentford FC Drone;
  • Provided you with the ability to put questions to Matthew, Thomas and others via our regular interviews and meet-ups.
  • The @bfcgpg Twitter account
and we would certainly look to continue to provide similar activities.

Now that the club is financially stable (thanks to you-know-who and our recent promotion), I am asking for some entirely voluntarily donations to defray the costs.

Nothing will change with regards to anyone's access to the GPG regardless of if you decide to support the running costs of it or not.

You can send us money directly to (ideally via a recurring payment) to:
60-00-01
48754145
(Account Name: me)

Alternatively, Buy Me a Coffee is our platform for donations. Please consider setting-up a "Membership" - which is a recurring monthly payment from £2 to £20. Otherwise you can "Support" us by purchasing 1 or more coffees at £2 a time on an one-off basis. For £2 monthly payment please avoid using Paypal as they absorb 25% of such smaller transactions. Consider a annual payment instead, or using Stripe, or a recurring payment as mentioned above)

Buy me a Coffee is available here: The Grapevine is providing a forum for West London Premier League Fans


Thank you.

Thanks everybody for your contributions. However, they've really dropped off in the interim 2 years. Some because they were one-off payments from 2 years ago and others have cancelled their regular payments due to the current cost-of-living issue (no problem from me there).

Since these thread started we have:
  • Donated £500 to cry, a cause closely associated with Brentford FC.
  • Sponsored the BFCCST via player kit sponsorship (Ethan Pinnock, see more about this below)
  • Tried a Podcast which (through popular demand) will probably be returning but less frequently than before.
  • Hosted a (secret/exclusive) special Zoom call for GPGers with Matthew
  • Continued to bring you the best snippets we can from inside the club
  • Made representations to the club on your behalf about ticketing system issues and plenty of your other concerns.
  • Tapes of interviews with industry w***ers like my mate Fab
  • Hosted clues about transfers from the owner (yeah, ok)
  • Introduced loads more functionality to the GPG (too many too mention, but most recently the change to remind you which thread you are reading)
  • Probably had an sit-down interview with Thomas Frank in that time too.

This season we have sponsored the BFCCST players by taking TWO kit sponsorships (Pinnock's home kit and Norgaard's away kit). Actually, this is the real imperative as they want paying ?

To help incentive you, Ethan's away shirt from last season will be raffled off, To enter the raffle, please be a donor (new or old) and post on this thread demanding to be entered into the draw. I won't be checking if you have donated or not, so if you want to take your chances then feel free. The shirt comes in a nice box too.

This season's shirt will be given away too.

I want to reiterate that there are no tangible benefits for donating, there's no special forum or whatsapp group or zoom meetings etc exclusive to those that have donated. All our content and activity will remain open to all. Also please, please, please do not donate if you cannot afford to.

Once again, thank you for donating. I think it's better value than all your Netflix, Disney+, Amazon Prime etc. subscriptions put together. Of course!

To donate on a regular basis

To donate on a one-off basis
  • Use Paypal to send money to "[email protected]". Please make sure that you choose the "sending money to Friends and Family" option, and an appropriate reason (e.g. "donation to GPG running costs")
  • Send a direct bank payment to 60-00-01 48754145 with the account name of your favourite moderator (PM me if you don't know my name)
To those that suggested we use Apple Pay etc. I couldn't find a cost effective way of using it. Maybe if Apple Cash is rolled out to the UK soon we can offer such an option.

Once again, much appreciated.
 

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Can someone bump this thread on Friday? Thanks ?
 

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Hi Nana, can you please enter me in the draw for Ethan's shirt, or rather I demand to be entered in the raffle.

Thanks
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

I demand to be entered into the Draw.
Thanks for organising all of the background/unseen work.
 

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Please enter me for the raffle despite the modesty of my monthly payment.
 

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:wave:
 

GPG Running Costs - How You Can Help (2023 Redux)

Hi boss man. Please could you just send me Ethan’s shirt (washed, if you don’t mind). Thanks.
 
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