R16: Argentina 3-2 Egypt

[davebee]

Well that was a pretty good finish.

 

[SanFranciscoBee]

Wow this match flipped on its head

 

[Ioweddie]

Fckus sake

 

[malvernbee]

Don't cry for me Tutankhamun headline.

 

[BeeInSW19]

They smell blood

 

[Untouchable]

Keeper has been poor for both Argentina goals.

 

[gamidov]

What are Egypt doing sitting back so much Argies wil win this 3-2

 

[jbee]

Pesky little genius.

 

[bexleybee]

Salah to get further in the tournament than Messi and Ronaldo?

 

[mhead bee]

Egypt took one of their best players off.

Why can’t people see games out, waste time, tactical fouls

 

[Gawain]

Keeper has been poor for both Argentina goals.

Harsh re that second goal imo - it was close enough in and going like a rocket.

 

[Hampshire Bee 2018]

4 on 3 counter attack and he kicks it straight at the defenders out stretched leg

 

[mhead bee]

Bloody salah, pass the f***ing ball

 

[Untouchable]

Argentina 3-2 Egypt

 

[aawharris]

Get the f*cking subs off the pitch!!!

 

[cromerbee]

Bollox!!

 

[LongLostBee]

All McCoist’s fault for saying “This’ll be the comeback of all comebacks” when it was only 2-0

 

[JosephBFC]

How is the kick on Salah’s foot any different to the foul on Martinez that ruled out Egypt’s goal earlier? Rigging matches to protect the poster boys, typical Fifa

 

[LostBee]

Losing with dignity really isn’t a thing anymore, is it?

 

[hanworthbee]

Var would have got involved had that been the other way round

 

[jbee]

Ideally we knock them out.

 

[JosephBFC]

Losing with dignity really isn’t a thing anymore, is it?

They’ve been robbed. The agenda was clear from the opening game when Messi somehow wasn’t sent off for the most obvious red card of the tournament. Spineless officiating

 

[gamidov]

What are Egypt doing sitting back so much Argies wil win this 3-2

Told you so

 

[LostBee]

They’ve been robbed. The agenda was clear from the opening game when Messi somehow wasn’t sent off for the most obvious red card of the tournament. Spineless officiating

Sure bro.

 

[gamidov]

Did VAR even look at that or is this just all about bending the rules together help Messi get to the final, wouldn’t be surprised.

 

[stevil]

Again, not even a foul. Yellow card Egypt.

 

[Gazza Bee]

This will kick off on full time - Egypt furious about the lack of a penalty just before the winning goal.

BTW we beat Argentina if we play them...

 

[BuzzingBee95]

It’s ridiculous how emotional coaches and players get over incidents they’ve probably not even seen clearly. Yes there was contact, but not enough for a pen

 

[gamidov]

It’s ridiculous how emotional coaches and players get over incidents they’ve probably not even seen clearly. Yes there was contact, but not enough for a pen

Says the guy watching it back at home from his TV

 

[BuzzingBee95]

Lautaro Martinez is definitely a guy who’s had a punch up with his own reflection

 

[JosephBFC]

Spot the difference either both are fouls or neither are fouls

 

[BuzzingBee95]

Says the guy watching it back at home from his TV

So you think it was a pen?

 

[bexleybee]

No red cards for De Nile of a goal scoring opportunity

 

[zuko]

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Spot the difference

Easy - in the second picture the Egyptian player has already lost possession of the ball

 

[Gawain]

Did VAR even look at that or is this just all about bending the rules together help Messi get to the final, wouldn’t be surprised.

Sorry, but superstar Salah getting through, 120m Egyptians going potty and another African team in the quarters etc, would be a pretty big "story" for FIFA, too.

Say what you like, but we shouldn't be too surprised at Argentina having too much for Egypt, even if they have to do it the hard way, with controversy along the way.

 

[mhead bee]

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Spot the difference either both are fouls or neither are fouls

The top one had a shirt pull afterwards

 

[mhead bee]

Sorry, but superstar Salah getting through, 120m Egyptians going potty and another African team in the quarters etc, would be a pretty big "story" for FIFA, too.

Say what you like, but we shouldn't be too surprised at Argentina having too much for Egypt, even if they have to do it the hard way, with controversy along the way.

For some reason it has always been ok in world cups for cynical teams to persistently foul, leave the foot in and give digs off the ball, but if you dare touch them back you will be carded or sent off.

Never understood it

There may be contention over the last goa and I and sure we will see it at some point, the TV companies are making sure you don’t see anything during the game until the decision is made, but Egypt went into defensive mode and I voted them on.

They had another 2-3 counter attacks they simply wasted and Salah not passing tha ball and trying to beat everyone himself, which has been his thing for a while, gives the ball away in injury time when the whole team was up top.

 

[jbee]

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Spot the difference either both are fouls or neither are fouls

I don't think so tbh. Ultimately it's a judgement call with no objective answer but the first one had a tug of the shirt which was the main part of the foul. The touch on Salah seemed inconsequential to me and I doubt it would have bothered him if he wasn't trying to win a penalty.

 

[Cham]

Egypt messed up and switched off at the back.. got punished by a quality team . No one to blame but themselves after putting themselves into a fantastic position

 

[zuko]

Egypt messed up and switched off at the back.. got punished by a quality team . No one to blame but themselves after putting themselves into a fantastic position

Yep. Had a glorious chance to win it with that break they screwed up, then terrible defending for the winner.

 

[BuzzingBee95]

For some reason it has always been ok in world cups for cynical teams to persistently foul, leave the foot in and give digs off the ball, but if you dare touch them back you will be carded or sent off.

Never understood it

There may be contention over the last goa and I and sure we will see it at some point, the TV companies are making sure you don’t see anything during the game until the decision is made, but Egypt went into defensive mode and I voted them on.

They had another 2-3 counter attacks they simply wasted and Salah not passing tha ball and trying to beat everyone himself, which has been his thing for a while, gives the ball away in injury time when the whole team was up top.

You say that but there were a few occasions the ref didn’t blow for one of those obvious dives.

I’m sure all of us collectively were pushing for Egypt to see it through. But if you would rather spend the few precious minutes left arguing and ranting on the pitch rather than pushing for that one more attack (considering they carved Argentina open on quite a few occasions) you might as well say that’s that.

Egypt did brilliantly to get to 0-2, but you have to credit Argentina for coming back.

 

[Beeian]

The top one had a shirt pull afterwards

Yes, but he was on his way to the floor when the Egyptian player tugged his shirt. There’s no getting away from it FIFA love Messi and no doubt want a France v Argentina final

 

[TW1Bee]

Brilliant from Argentina that's why they are champions and have always been there or there abouts . Really hard on Egypt who have some really exciting players but quite honestly were second best even having taken their breakaway goals well. The main story was Messi or Salah and there was only one winner there. Don't know where some people get the cynical, dirty fouling from probably the usual agenda people have.

 

[Vid]

Top of the football pyramid.

 

[Gawain]

You say that but there were a few occasions the ref didn’t blow for one of those obvious dives.

I’m sure all of us collectively were pushing for Egypt to see it through. But if you would rather spend the few precious minutes left arguing and ranting on the pitch rather than pushing for that one more attack (considering they carved Argentina open on quite a few occasions) you might as well say that’s that.

Egypt did brilliantly to get to 0-2, but you have to credit Argentina for coming back.

Yep, Egypt lost because they failed in their "game management" firstly, then they lost their composure. Which is the difference between a challenger like them, and a battle-hardened team like Argentina.

And I say all that as s.o. who really wanted Egypt to win.

 

[guilly]

Rudy Tomjanovich is often quoted for this, but "never underestimate the heart of a champion"

And for Egypt, our saying would be "pecho frío".
What a comeback!

 

[LongLostBee]

Yep, Egypt lost because they failed in their "game management" firstly, then they lost their composure. Which is the difference between a challenger like them, and a battle-hardened team like Argentina.

And I say all that as s.o. who really wanted Egypt to win.

Yeah I don’t mind going for a killer goal whilst the opposition are overcomitting but there’s no need for you to overcommit too.
Egypt shouldn’t have been “re-countered” so easily.

 

[JANORAK]

Well, I thought ‘sleepy’ Martinez was going to cost Argentina the game, then he turns into master sweeper for the last half hour!
Commentator going on about how long that team has played together, but it was allowed to do so for too long today. Inside passes and brick walls for the first 75(?) minutes, then suddenly let’s get down the sides, and fresh, non-Messicentric, legs to get there. Hey, Presto! 3 goals and job done.
If we are to be in opposition, let’s hope Scaloni remains faithful to his ‘Old Guard’ for just a little while longer….

 

[Gawain]

And for Egypt, our saying would be "pecho frío".

Had to google that:

"The phrase "pecho frío" literally means "cold chest" and is used to describe someone, especially an athlete, who chokes under pressure and fails to perform when it matters most. It signifies a lack of passion and heart in crucial moments, making it one of the harshest criticisms in sports, particularly in Argentine and Uruguayan football culture."

Thanks.

 

[guilly]

Had to google that:

"The phrase "pecho frío" literally means "cold chest" and is used to describe someone, especially an athlete, who chokes under pressure and fails to perform when it matters most. It signifies a lack of passion and heart in crucial moments, making it one of the harshest criticisms in sports, particularly in Argentine and Uruguayan football culture."

Thanks.

Welcome!