Considering the two are both 100 million + players that looks fantastic for less than half the price. PG and the whole team, we doff our cap again.Here you go:
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Admin work at weekends.My guess is we won't get an announcement until Monday.
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You can add in ageing effects too to the projections of stats to next year.
The aging curve changes the story quite a bit, because the three players sit at different stages. The radar above shows the projected 2028/29 picture (solid) with today's levels faint for reference; the saved file has the full now→projected delta table.
The research is consistent: in elite football, explosive traits (carrying, duel intensity, acceleration) peak early (~20–25) and fade first, strength/endurance peak ~25–29, and technical-cognitive skills (passing, positioning, creative distribution) hold into the early 30s. Midfielders peak overall around 26–27. Layering that onto the league-translated stats:
Yarmoliuk (22→25) is the biggest winner — furthest from peak, so he rises almost everywhere, on both the physical and the brain metrics. Over a 3-year window he's the one whose profile expands most.
Sangaré (24→27) is entering his prime. His already-elite ball-winning and carrying are near their ceiling and hold, while the gains land in passing, interceptions, creativity and finishing — which is exactly the "raise the attacking ceiling" upside the scouting reports flagged. He stays clearly ahead of both Brentford players on defensive volume.
Janelt (28→31) heads the other way. The decline concentrates in duels, tackling and dribbling (his explosive/physical numbers), while his passing and positioning largely hold — a classic experienced-recycler aging pattern. The gap between him and the two younger players widens.
Net effect: aging amplifies the current ranking rather than reshuffling it — the two younger players pull further ahead, and Sangaré's edge over Brentford's midfield looks more durable, not less.
The honest caveat, stronger here than before: aging curves describe populations, not individuals. Injuries, minutes, coaching and role changes can override the curve entirely, and I've stacked three layers of modelling now (league translation → aging → percentile mapping), so treat this as a directional scenario, not a forecast.
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Thanks. Decent mix of both. Better than Caicedo, with potential to get near to Anderson levels. If that pans out we would be very happy I expectHere you go:
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Someone's had a long daySo in summary a younger player has potential to grow, slightly older is likely to be at his peak and slightly older may be on the decline. How do you do it Holmes?
And I'm sure Dango was unveiled on a Saturday evening too.Admin work at weekends.
Is it just me or does this graphic also indicate that Yarmo is a beast too. If he can add some Xg/Xa to his game then the two of them together will be dominating midfields for years to come! Happy days!In case it is of interest to anyone other than me, I asked Claude to compare Sangare on key midfielder analytical stats to Jarmo and Janelt and then use a sort of French Ligue 1 -> EPL deflator to estimate how those stats would look if he performed as well as he did last year but in the Premier League. Below are the outputs:
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It's "quite interesting" yes. But it's only really applying a general dataset onto a specific example. I'm sure Messrs Benham, Giles et al would say, would that it were so simple!Someone's had a long daythe graph also allows you to see how younger players current level or projected peaks compare to older players that we've relied on for years. Quite interesting if you put a little more effort into thinking and a little less effort into being an Internet comedian.
He obviously looks brilliant, but his passing being the weakest part of his game according to this does concern me a bit. It’s not the best part of Yarmo’s game either.Here you go:
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It only looks weak-ish on that graph because it’s in comparison to Caicedo and Anderson. Compare it to anyone we have and it’s actually a great improvement.He obviously looks brilliant, but his passing being the weakest part of his game according to this does concern me a bit. It’s not the best part of Yarmo’s game either.
Maybe we’ll be funneling even more of our progression through Dams? That puts a lot of pressure on him staying fit and Milambo/Carvalho being able to stand in for such an important role
Passing is not a strength? I would say its all irrelavent. Who are we comparing to, we are probably talking different levels to our existing players. So in the end i cannot see how you can compare Sangare to our existing players.He obviously looks brilliant, but his passing being the weakest part of his game according to this does concern me a bit. It’s not the best part of Yarmo’s game either.
Maybe we’ll be funneling even more of our progression through Dams? That puts a lot of pressure on him staying fit and Milambo/Carvalho being able to stand in for such an important role
Lucky we have JensenHe obviously looks brilliant, but his passing being the weakest part of his game according to this does concern me a bit. It’s not the best part of Yarmo’s game either.
Maybe we’ll be funneling even more of our progression through Dams? That puts a lot of pressure on him staying fit and Milambo/Carvalho being able to stand in for such an important role
Yes. I recall someone saying one of our midfielders had the lowest pass completion percentage of anyone in the league at one point. but the context is, our attacking play involved long passes to a striker rather than lots of pretty triangles.Successful pass percentages are a strange stat as it ignores the context of the pass. A through ball for a winger to run onto will carry a much lower success rate than a pass from one centre back to another. So what?
I agree but I much rather be in our postion than the river rats down the road/Thames!.Looks like a good deal. However l'm not raising my expectations. Let's see him in action at prem league level. It's a world apart from what he's used to including fitness level.He also has to bed in to a new environment and it will be challenging as we know well.If he has a slow start l won't be surprised.
Yeah but he had a sore back
I would imagine we are. Last year he’d have been back up quality at best but we probably saw big potential. However we were well stocked in young midfielders so we’d buy him and he’d have no role to play.Surprised if we're 'long-term admirers' of him; if that's the case, why didn't we bid last year for him at £8million? (NOT knocking the poster, just the article quoted)
Yesterday although not known whether the club has the results.Has he had his medical yet?
Lewis Dunk manages about 2000 passes every season. Whilst a lot are successful, I believe very few are actually constructive!Successful pass percentages are a strange stat as it ignores the context of the pass. A through ball for a winger to run onto will carry a much lower success rate than a pass from one centre back to another. So what?
Has he had his medical yet?
Any problems with the shoot just let me know i can help.The hold up could be half a day they take shooting a presentation joining the club
Would he speak any ? Look like he’s moved to a mixture of Austria and Belgium in 2000 but before that presume he lived in Mali where they speak French and a number of other local languages I think
Do we have any French speakers ? Possibly Dango and maybe this chap speaks German so we have a couple of them Janet and he new centre back
Says here all wrapped up and likely to be officially announced tomorrow
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Already been done. A swift mod response saw it banished into history. Not sure if poster was banished either!If I were an admin I'd be soooo tempted to change the tag to "gone elsewhere" just to watch everyone wet themselves
Some idiot did that on another thread yesterday. Not a clever or amusing thing to do TBH.If I were an admin I'd be soooo tempted to change the tag to "gone elsewhere" just to watch everyone wet themselves
He obviously looks brilliant, but his passing being the weakest part of his game according to this does concern me a bit. It’s not the best part of Yarmo’s game either.
Maybe we’ll be funneling even more of our progression through Dams? That puts a lot of pressure on him staying fit and Milambo/Carvalho being able to stand in for such an important role
Already been done. A swift mod response saw it banished into history. Not sure if poster was banished either!
Glad I didn't see this with my heart condition!Some idiot did that on another thread yesterday. Not a clever or amusing thing to do TBH.
I thought it was quite amusing to be honest, although I appreciate we all have a different sense of humour.Some idiot did that on another thread yesterday. Not a clever or amusing thing to do TBH.
I think only a couple did see it and it had the impact I think the poster desired. Probably thought it was funny but the signing is far too important to mess with. Anyway, it was removed very, very, very quickly!Glad I didn't see this with my heart condition!
May have been if we hadn't been burnt by Brennan Johnson and Archie Gray. Many posters were clearly stressing that this could happen again. If poster had read the room, it probably wasn't the wisest post.I thought it was quite amusing to be honest, although I appreciate we all have a different sense of humour.
The voice of reasonLooks like a good deal. However l'm not raising my expectations. Let's see him in action at prem league level. It's a world apart from what he's used to including fitness level.He also has to bed in to a new environment and it will be challenging as we know well.If he has a slow start l won't be surprised.
I would be a lot more relaxed about this. The stats I have already shared shows that he is already pretty great on duels and pressing and being something of a beast in the engine room. In terms of passing, I think his role at Lens was more to win the ball, turn quickly and pass forward very vertically and quickly. That likely means fewer 'successful' passes, but his progressive passing is very impressive indeed.
If you look at the below I asked to put the Sqwaka stat about successful passes into the final third into some context. The stat is useful because it shows how well he can break lines with passes in the most compacted area of the pitch. Because of his role at Lens with quick breaks, you might expect the number to come down a little if we face more teams who stay discipline in a mid- or low-block, but the numbers are still spectular (see below).
In summary, I think you could say that he is already a better 6 than Vitaly, a better 8 than Yarmo (who also stands to look amazing) and as good at progressive passing as Dams! That's pretty good from where I sit!!
Evidence:
Sangaré attempted 16.9 final third passes per 90 and completed 13.27 of those, with both figures ranking second among the Lens squad — only Florian Thauvin, Lens' main attacking outlet, ranked ahead of him on both metrics. SquawkaSquawka
A direct EPL translation already exists — via Brentford
A Squawka piece built exactly this comparison because Sangaré had been linked with Brentford as a potential Jordan Henderson replacement. Their finding: Sangare attempted and completed more passes per 90 than any Brentford player in the Premier League last season among players with at least 1,710 minutes (50%) played. Specifically on final-third passing, he would have ranked third for final third passes attempted per 90, behind only Mikkel Damsgaard and Mathias Jensen, and second behind Damsgaard for final third passes completed. SquawkaSquawka
So within that squad context, Damsgaard is the closest equivalent — he's the one player who'd have out-passed Sangaré into the final third on both attempted and completed numbers.
How that stacks up against the wider EPL picture
Looking at league-wide 2025/26 numbers for players known for progressive passing, the raw per-90 figures look quite different from Sangaré's:
That ~7 completed-per-90 range for Xhaka/Anderson sits well below Sangaré's 13.27. That gap is bigger than I'd expect from league quality alone, so it likely reflects a data/definition mismatch rather than Sangaré being dramatically better than every progressive EPL midfielder — different providers (or different zone/pass-type definitions) can produce quite different baselines even for a stat that sounds identical. Lens's structure (building through midfield with heavy final-third circulation) may also just generate more attempts than a typical EPL side's approach.
- Granit Xhaka (Sunderland) averaged 7.25 completed passes into the final third per 90 minutes, placing him in the 80-95th percentile Squawka
- Elliot Anderson (Nottingham Forest) recorded 7.34 completed passes into the final third per 90, alongside 15.39 accurate forward passes per 90, and led the Premier League with 80 fouls won in the same data set, giving a sense of how heavily involved he is generally SquawkaSquawka
- On the defensive side, Marcos Senesi ranks first in the Premier League for passes into the final third, showing centre-backs can also top this chart depending on system Premier League
Bottom line on "closest equivalent"
Given the definitional caveat, I'd treat the Anderson comparison as the more meaningful stylistic equivalent, and the Damsgaard one as the more literal "how would his raw numbers rank on this specific squad" answer.
- If we trust the Brentford-specific translation: Mikkel Damsgaard is the nearest match, statistically ahead of where Sangaré's numbers would slot in.
- If we're going off broader raw per-90 volume across the league: Elliot Anderson is the best stylistic comparison — a progressive, high-passing-volume central midfielder whose profile (forward passing, final-third involvement, high overall activity) most resembles what Sangaré does at Lens — even though Anderson's raw per-90 count is lower, which is more likely a measurement artifact than a true gap in end product.
The french league is physical but not as intense and consistently demanding as the EPL. Moreover players don't come under the same goldfish bowl scrutiny week by week as they do here. So yes he will probably find the step up a bit challenging at first.Looks like a good deal. However l'm not raising my expectations. Let's see him in action at prem league level. It's a world apart from what he's used to including fitness level.He also has to bed in to a new environment and it will be challenging as we know well.If he has a slow start l won't be surprised.
Fitness level? N'Golo Kante begs to differ, for one!Looks like a good deal. However l'm not raising my expectations. Let's see him in action at prem league level. It's a world apart from what he's used to including fitness level.He also has to bed in to a new environment and it will be challenging as we know well.If he has a slow start l won't be surprised.
Mitigations have been put in place to prevent this from happening again.I think only a couple did see it and it had the impact I think the poster desired. Probably thought it was funny but the signing is far too important to mess with. Anyway, it was removed very, very, very quickly!