Final Score Leeds 1 - 1 Brentford (Schade) (32 Viewers)

[JohnOmarasShorts]

Also, Leeds fans are horrible c***wombles.

Please don't insult c***wobbles.

 

[Bigbee]

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[Isleworth_Bee]

Watching MOTD this morning.

Fek me thats a nailed on pen.

 

[RoyBee]

Watching MOTD this morning.

Fek me thats a nailed on pen.

Anyone who knows anything about football knows that is a penalty 100%. VARs reason for existence is to correct clear mistakes like that. Strange!!!

 

[brentfordfc4ever]

Anyone who knows anything about football knows that is a penalty 100%. VARs reason for existence is to correct clear mistakes like that. Strange!!!

They've been instructed to let a lot more go this year and to only use VAR where absolutely necessary. We're going to see many more examples this season where the on field decision stays and in truth, I dont mind that at all. Most hate VAR and can't have it both way

It was a penalty

 

[Lush55]

VAR soon intervened (and got it wrong) with Maguire, either have it or ditch it,simple.

 

[badgerbee]

They've been instructed to let a lot more go this year and to only use VAR where absolutely necessary. We're going to see many more examples this season where the on field decision stays and in truth, I dont mind that at all. Most hate VAR and can't have it both way

It was a penalty

Agreed.
So long as they're consistent.
But they won't be.
That happens against us at Anfield, Old Trafford, The Etihad, The Emirates, Stamford Bridge, it'll be given as a penalty. 100%
In fact, even at the Gtech against those teams it would be given.
And actually pretty much any away ground we play at.

 

[bees1984]

Agreed.
So long as they're consistent.
But they won't be.
That happens against us at Anfield, Old Trafford, The Etihad, The Emirates, Stamford Bridge, it'll be given as a penalty. 100%
In fact, even at the Gtech against those teams it would be given.
And actually pretty much any away ground we play at.

Oh definitely! I didn't think Man United should have been awarded a penalty, as it looked to me like Cunha wasn't touched and the Ipswich just slid next to him. Ref gave it immediately. Caveat being I had one too many Rattlers

 

[A Real Mysteron]

VAR soon intervened (and got it wrong) with Maguire, either have it or ditch it,simple.

According to the Laws of the game in that case VAR got it right.

That part of the Law is b***ocks though.

 

[Edmundo]

According to the Laws of the game in that case VAR got it right.

That part of the Law is b***ocks though.

All depends on whether you regard Maguire’s handball as intentional or not. VAR obviously didn’t but the other viewpoint is certainly possible.

 

[bees1984]

All depends on whether you regard Maguire’s handball as intentional or not. VAR obviously didn’t but the other viewpoint is certainly possible.

Doesn't it also depends on whether it is classed as leading directly to a goal? The fact it came off an Ipswich defender and then went in as was classed as an own goal?

Leads me to ask, where the line is drawn there. A deflected shot is OK, what about it if you handball it accidentally and then square it to someone with an open goal tap in is that also OK

 

[badgerbee]

Doesn't it also depends on whether it is classed as leading directly to a goal? The fact it came off an Ipswich defender and then went in as was classed as an own goal?

Leads me to ask, where the line is drawn there. A deflected shot is OK, what about it if you handball it accidentally and then square it to someone with an open goal tap in is that also OK

Yes.
Goal would stand.

 

[BmthBee]

We’re very good at football. This is going to be a very fun season.
Need to ask Mr Harrington how that game ended 4-0 to Brentford in yellow cards

I can answer that for him
Because he was clearly influenced by the home crowd in the majority of his decisions

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

I can answer that for him
Because he was clearly influenced by the home crowd in the majority of his decisions

Yep, how they didnt pick up at least 2 yellows in the first 20mins is beyond me.

 

[BmthBee]

It was, but I would argue Wilson ran into Collins and collapsed holding his face. The ball was long dead, stupid decision.

Wilson is a pr**k and will do anything to try get one over us, he obviously wasn't going to score (for once) so he resorted to simulation to get us a booking

 

[BmthBee]

Yep, how they didnt pick up at least 2 yellows in the first 20mins is beyond me.

Indeed Rodon caught Schade twice with nothing done

 

[EastBilneyBee]

I havevit now…..yeah

....that was REALLY quick service from SKY Sports

 

[Glenisterbee]

Yep, how they didnt pick up at least 2 yellows in the first 20mins is beyond me.

The ref called Rodon over and told him the next foul was a card. This was after two poor tackles. He should have had at least one yellow before that. It’s a joke where they hide behind the excuse of it being too early in the game for a card. Rubbish. A yellow card shouldn’t matter whatever time is on the clock. If he hadn’t been injured there’s a fair chance he would have walked anyway if the ref from Yorkshire had any balls.

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

The ref called Rodon over and told him the next foul was a card. This was after two poor tackles. He should have had at least one yellow before that. It’s a joke where they hide behind the excuse of it being too early in the game for a card. Rubbish. A yellow card shouldn’t matter whatever time is on the clock. If he hadn’t been injured there’s a fair chance he would have walked anyway if the ref from Yorkshire had any balls.

It all falls down here.

 

[BmthBee]

The ref called Rodon over and told him the next foul was a card. This was after two poor tackles. He should have had at least one yellow before that. It’s a joke where they hide behind the excuse of it being too early in the game for a card. Rubbish. A yellow card shouldn’t matter whatever time is on the clock. If he hadn’t been injured there’s a fair chance he would have walked anyway if the ref from Yorkshire had any balls.

I wouldn't call them poor tackles Rodon had one thing on his mind and that was stop Schade by fair means or not in both cases and both were yellow cards all day long.
As for the non penalty I shall say no more on the subject

 

[A Real Mysteron]

I wouldn't call them poor tackles Rodon had one thing on his mind and that was stop Schade by fair means or not in both cases and both were yellow cards all day long.
As for the non penalty I shall say no more on the subject

There was one “naughty” one where he really left the foot in on the follow though.

 

[EastBilneyBee]

Karma got Rodon

UNBELIEVABLE, Jeff....



Oh, wait a moment

 

[BmthBee]

Karma got Rodon

I beg to differ Rodon should have walked via a red card

 

[Cobbett]

It was a pen for me too Clive; I was pretty confident VAR would intervene.

I assume that refs talk to each other and I wonder if they have Schade down as someone who is gravitationally challenged.

 

[Kingston Bee]

It was a pen for me too Clive; I was pretty confident VAR would intervene.

I assume that refs talk to each other and I wonder if they have Schade down as someone who is gravitationally challenged.

Whether Schade goes down easily or not should have nothing to do with it. Each case should be judged on its own merits. Its not like they dont have the technology to see the incident from 10 different angles at 10 different speeds. But you cant beat an incompetent ref, backed up by an incompetent VAR process that is not fit for purpose.

 

[Vid]

The ref has indicated it's ok to tread on his feet next time he "officiates".

 

[Lush55]

I wouldn't call them poor tackles Rodon had one thing on his mind and that was stop Schade by fair means or not in both cases and both were yellow cards all day long.
As for the non penalty I shall say no more on the subject

The other one was Aaronson (11) had a pop a few times in the first 15.

 

[BmthBee]

The other one was Aaronson (11) had a pop a few times in the first 15.

They don't have the tag '' dirty Leeds'' for nothing

 

[TadB]

Are you surprised??? Sky love Leeds, the commentary today at times was sickening.

Why are you surprised? We do not have a big stadium, we do not draw big crowds, and we do not attract large viewing figures. Any person, organisation, television company or individual who depends on the Premier League to accumulate money will naturally lean towards a team who can fullfil this demand. Leeds have all these qualities whose presence enhances the league. The media treated us to begin with as a novelty, but as far as they are concerned we have outstayed our welcome. As for making a charge for those Champions League slots that belong to the big clubs then that is too much.
Currently we are walking with giants, while we remain solvent, and are winning matches even when playing on a different side to the Referee there is little they can do. I think what really worries them is our owner/management who are producing a club that is going to stay in the Premier League, and is out thinking them all by building an organisation that will remain a thorn in their side for many seasons to come. So two fingers to those biased referees, bloated media company, and patronising media.

 

[HMDBFC]

Harrington has a lot of previous, take a look through his history on the GPG.
We were good enough to put this game to bed in the first half and the one goal sadly proved to be insufficient. The penalty claim on Schade however was a turning point in the second half and undoubtedly knocked our confidence during a period when Leeds were building momentum. A cursory 5 second look by VAR did us no favours. I hope this incident is the subject of refwatch this week.
How a player is judged to fall to the ground following a clear contact inside the box is obviously subjective but the contact itself was as clear as daylight. The offence was the contact not what followed

 

[Oceanbee]

Sorry to break it to you, but Cleveland doesn’t exist. He’s a Hartlepool fan.

Cleveland does still exist as an area.
It was formerly a county for a few years at the end of the 20th century.

Then it was split between County Durham and Yorkshire.

Harrington was born in East Cleveland, which became part of Yorkshire.

Anyway, for whatever reason, ignoring his Yorkshire birth place and also being a Hartlepool fan, it was obvious to most on Saturday, that his decisions swayed towards favouring Leeds.

So if he referees at the G-Tech some time, and we are playing a “Northern" team, we’ll see how he does!

 

[aawharris]

It was a pen for me too Clive; I was pretty confident VAR would intervene.

I assume that refs talk to each other and I wonder if they have Schade down as someone who is gravitationally challenged.

Surely you arent suggesting that a certain bias would stop an official doing his job correctly and legitimately?

 

[Windmill Rd Bee]

100% penalty wondering if northern ref favouring northern team?

Famously all northern teams like each other and have no rivalries of any kind

 

[TorbayBee]

They've been instructed to let a lot more go this year and to only use VAR where absolutely necessary. We're going to see many more examples this season where the on field decision stays and in truth, I dont mind that at all. Most hate VAR and can't have it both way

It was a penalty

How do they define ‘absolutely necessary’ then? Perhaps it’s ’where an obvious error has been made by the referee on a critical match incident’ e.g. a penalty. Otherwise where would they intervene?
Whatever way you look at it it’s very strange that VAR did not intervene for a clear pivotal ref misjudgement.
Lots of teams it would not happen to.

 

[HMDBFC]

Cleveland does still exist as an area.
It was formerly a county for a few years at the end of the 20th century.

Then it was split between County Durham and Yorkshire.

Harrington was born in East Cleveland, which became part of Yorkshire.

Anyway, for whatever reason, ignoring his Yorkshire birth place and also being a Hartlepool fan, it was obvious to most on Saturday, that his decisions swayed towards favouring Leeds.

So if he referees at the G-Tech some time, and we are playing a “Northern" team, we’ll see how he does!

Okay. Now caught up this week's ref watch. General view is that Harrington got it wrong but VAR unable to overturn it!
What's the point of VAR?

 

[Untouchable]

How do they define ‘absolutely necessary’ then?

When it’s Manchester United at Old Trafford, Arsenal at the Emirates etc.

 

[Poolieboydave]

Cleveland does still exist as an area.
It was formerly a county for a few years at the end of the 20th century.

Then it was split between County Durham and Yorkshire.

Harrington was born in East Cleveland, which became part of Yorkshire.

Anyway, for whatever reason, ignoring his Yorkshire birth place and also being a Hartlepool fan, it was obvious to most on Saturday, that his decisions swayed towards favouring Leeds.

So if he referees at the G-Tech some time, and we are playing a “Northern" team, we’ll see how he does!

Jesus Christ. I’m literally from the area you’re referring to and used to stand close-ish to him in the Town End at pools. I wouldn’t trust him to referee Brentford v Hartlepool, but there is no affinity to Leeds, nor a northern conspiracy to promote Leeds above the Bees (see prior poster who makes this point clearer than I have, that Northern teams also have rivalries.). On this basis your claiming all London clubs have a close affinity for each other, which is clearly nonsense.

Cleveland doesn’t exist, it was a made up county council for like 20-30 years and disbanded years ago, with only the police force still referencing it. It’s not a real place on a map. To claim we are from Yorkshire and have any affinity with the self proclaimed “gods country” is nonsense.

It’s the exact same distance from Elland Road as the City Ground! The poster AB summed it up perfectly by saying:

Cleveland is about as far from Leeds as you can get while still being in Yorkshire. It’s like calling people from Dorset Londoners.

As I’ve already made clear, I think the ref had a poor game yesterday and it was definitely a penalty, but claiming his “Yorkshire” bias had anything to do with it is utter b***ocks.