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United full backs are so sh*t not sure why they didn’t buy any new ones
 

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I agree with MacGuire.
Should be closer to 10 minutes added on time.
 

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South Acton Bee said:
If he not offside what is he! Terrible decision I honestly think its got worse this season!
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This season by VAR:

- Not getting involved with clear and obvious errors
- Not understanding the laws of the game

We all owe a formal apology to Wolves. They were right about VAR.
 

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Edmundo said:
Carrick has every right to be absolutely furious about that. The onfield officials got it spot on and some idiot watching a replay doesn't even know the f***ing rules!

And why wasn't the ref asked to look at it on the monitor?
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The rules are so explicit, and everyone on this board knows it. But the guy being paid to know the rule doesn’t? I mean, what?

I would prefer they both lost, but on a Bees perspective: on the last corner Anderson faces away from the ball and wraps up Maguire until they both go down. That was a problem last week. VAR is cool with it this week. And it’s the same ref from last week!
 

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Edmundo said:
Carrick has every right to be absolutely furious about that. The onfield officials got it spot on and some idiot watching a replay doesn't even know the f***ing rules!

And why wasn't the ref asked to look at it on the monitor?
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But it has distracted from a pretty insipid performance from his team, who were lucky not to be down to ten themselves...
 

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“On field, it is highly likely that Enzo’s actions were not given much consideration because the assistant was certain Haaland was offside.As a result, the VAR was being asked to judge whether the officials at Old Trafford had made a clear error, when in reality they had not formed a judgement at all.”

Wait, the ref knew Fernandez was off but also Haaland was off (we are reading his mind here). But since Haaland wasn’t, Fernandez no longer counts? Jesus.
 

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finsbury_bee said:
Now they’ve given Carrick the job they seem to have reverted to being bang average.
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Otoh, maybe "bang average" is still a level or two above where they were under Amorim (or were heading, at least)?
 

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HungryBee said:
Do you consider constantly moaning about referees to be a personal hobby or do you just have too much free time on your hands?
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While I expect @Untouchable to give a withering reply, I don't know why he doesn't try to make a difference by phoning up Talksport or summat.
 

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Another two piss poor decisions.

4 games in and we are littered with appalling decisions again. It is like they are untouchable, hidden away and not accountable.
 

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HungryBee said:
Do you consider constantly moaning about referees to be a personal hobby
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Yes.

Thanks for asking though. I appreciate your concern. Hope you’re having a lovely Sunday too.
 

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Edmundo said:
On the plus side, we can no longer complain that sh*t VAR decisions wouldn’t be given against Man U at Old Trafford.
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Same thought crossed my mind. Must be weird right now being an United fan…
 

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Edmundo said:
On the plus side, we can no longer complain that sh*t VAR decisions wouldn’t be given against Man U at Old Trafford.
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Indeed. Or dodgy penalties against Arsenal.

Refs generally call it as they see it. Not always right, obviously.

I'm really not sure people will ever be happy:

1. Refs make too many mistakes. "We need VAR." VAR arrives, then...
2. "VAR is being used too much. It's re-refereeing games." VAR usage is reduced to reiterate it will only get involved in obvious errors, then...
3. "Refs are making mistakes. Why is VAR not overturning that?"

So, we will go between no.2 and 3 on a loop for the next few years.

The fact is with multi cameras, replays and stills, there will always be some decisions open to interpretation and not stonewall. 100% consistency is impossible between multiple games, refs and interpretations.

Pundits, managers and armchair experts need to accept this. If they can't, then don't moan that we go back to no. 2 above and have decisions taking ages.
 

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But today was
4. Refs got it right and VAR ruined it
 

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Edmundo said:
On the plus side, we can no longer complain that sh*t VAR decisions wouldn’t be given against Man U at Old Trafford.
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I guess it evens up Bruno staying on the field when he should also have been sent off for kicking Foden. What goes around....
 

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Not being invested in either team, preferring a draw or City win from our PoV, I found the whole game quite entertaining. S*** "commentator" but Neville's clear bias provided constant amusement.

Admittedly, the two major refereeing incidents were just ridiculous: why wasn't Fernandez (B) given some sort of card for initiating Foden's reaction? Why were there no lines drawn for Haaland's goal? Is that not done anymore?
 

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jlove said:
Why were there no lines drawn for Haaland's goal? Is that not done anymore?
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The feed I watched eventually showed the semi-automated line drawn that showed Haaland was a millimetre behind Dorgu’s outstretched big toenail. But you didn’t need lines to tell that Fernandez was a million miles offside.
 

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What does Graham Scott's point about Martinez can see the ball all the way mean?
 

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So the only person IN THE WORLD that thought Enzo was onside was the VAR. Great.
 

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mattbee said:
What does Graham Scott's point about Martinez can see the ball all the way mean?
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That he could still play the ball, i.e. that Fernandez doesn't "interfere" with play. Not sure it's right but i believe it's what he's trying to say.
 

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Hippobee said:
Indeed. Or dodgy penalties against Arsenal.

Refs generally call it as they see it. Not always right, obviously.

I'm really not sure people will ever be happy:

1. Refs make too many mistakes. "We need VAR." VAR arrives, then...
2. "VAR is being used too much. It's re-refereeing games." VAR usage is reduced to reiterate it will only get involved in obvious errors, then...
3. "Refs are making mistakes. Why is VAR not overturning that?"

So, we will go between no.2 and 3 on a loop for the next few years.

The fact is with multi cameras, replays and stills, there will always be some decisions open to interpretation and not stonewall. 100% consistency is impossible between multiple games, refs and interpretations.

Pundits, managers and armchair experts need to accept this. If they can't, then don't moan that we go back to no. 2 above and have decisions taking ages.
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To be fair, I don’t think any fans ever said any of the above. Maybe pundits etc did.

It’s not much to ask, the rules are there, use them consistently, stop making sh*t up and doing stupid things like only over turning a decision if it is mind blowingly bad.

What is wrong with having a quick look and saying, yup, pulled his shirt, pen. 5 second check. It’s only re reffing if they spend 20 mins

You could literally show the incident to 5 refs and get 5 different outcomes, show the same 5 to a group of fans and they would probably all come back with the same decision, removing their own club bias of course
 
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