Manchester City Found Guilty Of FFP Breaches (49 Viewers)

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Chertsey F.C. welcome the players and supporters of Manchester City to their premier league fixture at Alwyns Lane.

 

[bexleybee]

I hope they get absolutely whalloped but watch the massive penalty be "suspended for x years"

 

[bexleybee]

Worth a tenner at 14-1 right now to be relegated?

 

[JCMcBee]

Worth a tenner at 14-1 right now to be relegated?

.... I'll give you 33-1.... minimum bet £500.

 

[hanworthbee]

Good this will hopefully be he end of Man City being a dominant force as the Abu Dhabi group will have to go, Mansour will have to go and £100m transfers will also go.

 

[Oldboy TW8 0AW]

Back in our second division days, Luton got deducted 30pts due to financial issues (not as extreme as this City's case) and ultimately relegated.
These 115 issues are historical and City should be hit hard with the appropriate punishments. The club should be made an example of with a warning to others!

 

[Oldboy TW8 0AW]

Previous post #194 how Brentford have adapted to the transfer market,and the
Premier League.
Long may it continue.
️

 

[PGH_Bee]

City have won the league 8 times in the last 20 years. I think that a relegation per championship is probably a fair punishment.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Is there any chance Forest get relegated here?

 

[aawharris]

I hope they get absolutely whalloped but watch the massive penalty be "suspended for x years"

They will probably get a 20 million fine and 20 point deduction, then on appeal 5 million fine and 4 point deduction....

 

[ziggys_human]

hope they get "the book thrown at 'em"...but, knowing them, they'll find a way to cook it

 

[SpiderBee]

Demoted 2 divisions and £50million fine.

 

[Ioweddie]

Hope they crash out of Prem down to the conference league

 

[VitaminBee]

Is there any chance Forest get relegated here?

Marinakis acts like the thug he is and intimidates everyone with any power at MCFC into agreeing to be merged into NFFC as a desperate last resort to avoid punishment, at which point the PL release a statement saying "We were looking for an excuse to get rid of those deluded Notts Forest c*nts anyway, so the punishments we were going to hand to MCFC will be transferred to NFFC."?

 

[Sianist]

I have absolutely zero belief that they'll get more than a slap on the wrist, with FA ultimately 'excusing' themselves by claiming that the time it took them to get their collective fingers out is a mitigating factor

 

[the beast]

I reckon they will get a 2 window transfer embargo and a massive fan ,I cant see more than that

 

[Gazza Bee]

I reckon they will get a 2 window transfer embargo and a massive fan ,I cant see more than that

Is Marinakis changing allegiance to Citeh now?

 

[hanworthbee]

An immediate 50 point penalty imo and no retrospective punishment or titles taken away

 

[bexleybee]

An immediate 50 point penalty imo and no retrospective punishment or titles taken away

League winning form needed to avoid relegation. I like that

 

[GABS]

Hello Ken

Well, it is fraud, isn't it?

 

[stomalomalus]

There's a point to be made for City paying reparations to clubs who failed to qualify for Europe during their time, and maybe even to relegated teams...after Everton were forced to pay Burnley £40m.

Unfortunately, we wouldn't have qualified for Europe in the seasons in question.

I reckon no retroactive action will be taken, and they'll get a large fine and a points deduction. Maybe even 100pts, but then that will be reduced to 10 on appeal...

 

[A Real Mysteron]

An immediate 50 point penalty imo and no retrospective punishment or titles taken away

They’d still stay up.

 

[stomalomalus]

They’d still stay up.

Would be hilarious if they were given a 50 point penalty and still finished above Spurs

 

[A Real Mysteron]

Would be hilarious if they were given a 50 point penalty and still finished above Spurs

Inevitable I would say.
And totally hilarious.

 

[Untouchable]

View: https://x.com/utdheisenberg_/status/2103489839848902881?s=46&t=SQP7mje7Pimu8X-ugPnQnQ

 

[JCMcBee]

.... will return to this thread in 2028

Man City charges latest: City found guilty of majority of 115 financial rule breaches

Reaction as sources tell BBC Sport that Man City have been found guilty of breaking the majority of financial rules they were accused of breaching.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[N5022N122]

Need enough points deducted to at this stage of the season make them fearful of relegation plus 50m to be distributed amongst the non league football structure.

 

[Baubaul]

A few millions there and maybe a ban for one or two transfer windows. Nothing else.

If it was a tiny pot resources poor club then …oh boy!!!! they’d go straight to conference as a lenient measure

 

[brooks]

12 point deduction for next season reduced to four on appeal with an abject apology for their treatment from the Premier League

 

[longtimeagobee]

Worth a tenner at 14-1 right now to be relegated?

3-1 for relegation on Bet 365
3-1 to win Premier league as well

 

[Travel Tavern Bee]

Serious brown envelopes changing hands methinks

 

[KenCootesNephew]

I trust Phil Giles has offered to revive Erling Haaland's Premier League career at Brentford.

 

[Peteseeger]

If Luton's 30 point deduction is the benchmark then relegation and a 30 point deduction should be the minimum, increased to a 60 point deduction if they appeal.

 

[Peteseeger]

I trust Phil Giles has offered to revive Erling Haaland's Premier League career at Brentford.

Only if he is prepared to start in the B team

 

[Sianist]

If Luton's 30 point deduction is the benchmark then relegation and a 30 point deduction should be the minimum, increased to a 60 point deduction if they appeal.

Not quite... 20 of the points was for breaking the rules governing exiting administration, and 10 points for irregularities surrounding player transfers

 

[Untouchable]

If Luton's 30 point deduction is the benchmark then relegation and a 30 point deduction should be the minimum, increased to a 60 point deduction if they appeal.

A brief aside, Luton’s 30 points was through 2 different charges. The FA charge in relation to iffy payments to agents lead to a 10 point deduction. The failure to agree a CVA was an EFL charge leading to a 20 point deduction.

In any event, what Man City did seems significantly more serious than anything any club has ever been charged with. Relegation or a points deduction that assures relegation should be the only way this ends.

 

[Untouchable]

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[Gazza Bee]

P

3-1 for relegation on Bet 365
3-1 to win Premier league as well

This will be due to how long it will take on appeal so probably won't be fully resolved before the end of this season

 

[bexleybee]

View: https://x.com/andyha_/status/2103502445699903566?s=46

 

[Gee Bee]

City have won the league 8 times in the last 20 years. I think that a relegation per championship is probably a fair punishment.

The charges relate to 2009 to 2018 so 3 times premier lesgue, 3 league cups and 1 fa cup.
114 points deduction and £114m fine would suit plus all their wins are given to runners up

 

[bostonhanwell]

Relegate to L2, 5 year transfer ban, massive fine and owners sent to back to desert

 

[Lbhbee]

Relegate to L2, 5 year transfer ban, massive fine and owners sent to back to desert

Perfect, and fine to be split between all national league teams, south of Birmingham,

 

[80s Bee]

The charges relate to 2009 to 2018 so 3 times premier lesgue, 3 league cups and 1 fa cup.
114 points deduction and £114m fine would suit plus all their wins are given to runners up

I read the charges cover the seasons from ‘09/10 through to ‘22/‘23, during which they won the PL 7 times. If reallocated then ManU and Liverpool get 3 each and Arsenal get 1.

 

[savvy 2210]

I do hope they are found guilty after their appeal. Kicked out of the Premier League.
I wonder how this will effect the crowd size ? Lets see how the plastic supporters handle this. Of course they think their innocent. Good luck with that.
Time will tell.

 

[Westlad]

When do we get our entry into the conference league? Group stages? Or are we straight through to the knockouts?

 

[trevallyjack]

What's a bit annoying from the BFC point of view is costs.
Copied from the BBC...

""This specific case was six years in the making, so legal fees on both sides were estimated at tens of millions of pounds before the hearing even started.

Whichever side 'wins' can be expected to make a claim for costs.

For context, the Premier League wanted Everton to pay the full £4.9m legal costs of their first PSR six-point deduction case.

However, an appeal board ruled Everton should pay £1.7m and the Premier League cover the remaining £3.2m legal fees.

Any costs being paid by the Premier League at the end of the City case would have to be spread across the 20 clubs which make up the league."""

So, after the inevitable appeal, if the PL don't get full costs, I'd guess all the rest of the league will have a quite noticeable donation to make.

 

[Westlad]

What's a bit annoying from the BFC point of view is costs.
Copied from the BBC...

""This specific case was six years in the making, so legal fees on both sides were estimated at tens of millions of pounds before the hearing even started.

Whichever side 'wins' can be expected to make a claim for costs.

For context, the Premier League wanted Everton to pay the full £4.9m legal costs of their first PSR six-point deduction case.

However, an appeal board ruled Everton should pay £1.7m and the Premier League cover the remaining £3.2m legal fees.

Any costs being paid by the Premier League at the end of the City case would have to be spread across the 20 clubs which make up the league."""

So, after the inevitable appeal, if the PL don't get full costs, I'd guess all the rest of the league will have a quite noticeable donation to make.

Brentford and clubs in a similar position to us are reported to have complained quite alot about how much money has been spent on is when it has little impact on us. Especially given how we can use our share of the millions already gone on this much better than most clubs

 

[hanworthbee]

I do hope they are found guilty after their appeal. Kicked out of the Premier League.
I wonder how this will effect the crowd size ? Lets see how the plastic supporters handle this. Of course they think their innocent. Good luck with that.
Time will tell.

They won't get kicked out of the PL as the season has already started

 

[hanworthbee]

I read the charges cover the seasons from ‘09/10 through to ‘22/‘23, during which they won the PL 7 times. If reallocated then ManU and Liverpool get 3 each and Arsenal get 1.

I don't think anything will be retrospective

 

[Banana]

Is there any chance Forest get relegated here?

I will tell you know what will happen. Forest will finish 18th and be repreived from relegation due to this.