Poll - Sanctions for Manchester City (29 Viewers)

[Isleworth_Bee]

I don't think there are any restrictions on what you can spend on your academy.

Its still "built on it". Money spent must still hit their books.............. And i bet not all the players in it came for free.

Rotten core and foundations.

 

[nick logan]

They can't start in championship , if they go relegation route it will be league 2 subject to 72 teams not saying " eff off "

 

[jbee]

Its still "built on it". Money spent must still hit their books.............. And i bet not all the players in it came for free.

Rotten core and foundations.

I don't think so. That is I don't think money spent on the academy would count towards losses for SCR/PSR purposes. The owners can directly spend as much as they want there and don't need any shenanigans.

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

I don't think so. That is I don't think money spent on the academy would count towards losses for SCR/PSR purposes. The owners can directly spend as much as they want there and don't need any shenanigans.

Sorry mate, im not saying it counts towards PSR etc............. Just that the whole lot is built on corruption and cheating success.

 

[SmiffyBee]

Relegated 2 divisions
Starting next season.
Pay £10m to every conference, conference north, conference south, league 1 and league 2 club.
Leeds deducted 10 points.

 

[alikat]

Leeds deducted 10 points.

Did you forget the second "0"?

 

[GABS]

I like the idea of multiple points deductions for x seasons to come. Maybe for as long a period as they were cooking the books.

Not just me then


View: https://x.com/MattHughesMedia/status/2105377463211602023?s=20

Rival clubs feel relegating Manchester City to Championship would not be enough

The Premier League will face pressure from Manchester City’s rivals to push for a sanction that will result in a prolonged absence from the top flight

www.theguardian.com

 

[stomalomalus]

Surely the start point is making sure that the owners and Executives never work in football in England again.

Everything else is secondary

 

[w7 bee]

Suggest ...in addition to above sanctions ..Oasis need to do freebee football stadium tours next summer.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Suggest ...in addition to above sanctions ..Oasis need to do freebee football stadium tours next summer.

Coming to you live from Mansfield, Luton, Newport.....

 

[stevendamico]

I've been thinking about it and I think a 40 point deduction for five years plus a fine equal to their cheating (800 million plus) should be the punishment, plus a ban on individual guilty parties from having anything to do with the EPL (which should, in effect, force a sale). That's a slightly higher offence amount to point deduction ratio than Everton. At a minimum they have to be fined what they cheated.

 

[Vid]

Punish the guilty. If someone commited murder in a football stadium you would punish the murderer. In football if an owner commits fraud the players and supporters are punished. The players will just move on to other clubs. The supporters get shafted as usual. Fine the money people enough wonga to build a prison and put them in it.

 

[JANORAK]

Punish the guilty. If someone commited murder in a football stadium you would punish the murderer. In football if an owner commits fraud the players and supporters are punished. The players will just move on to other clubs. The supporters get shafted as usual. Fine the money people enough wonga to build a prison and put them in it.

Their fans would have plenty of time to kill, so they could fix the stadium roof….

 

[northbrooklynbee]

A points deduction needs to be as strong as the precedent for say Everton, multiplied by the counts.
A fine equal or greater to the amount that was fraudulently circulated to their club’s benefit (north of 1B).
5 year ban from all competition and then restart at the bottom of the pyramid. Clubs trajectories are measured in centuries.
If the punishment does not mirror the length, and strength, of the period of success, it won’t matter and City and other clubs will continue to break the rules when they do the risk analysis.
Simply put, the punishment has to be so severe that it discourages the crime.

 

[hobbsy]

Punish the guilty. If someone commited murder in a football stadium you would punish the murderer. In football if an owner commits fraud the players and supporters are punished. The players will just move on to other clubs. The supporters get shafted as usual. Fine the money people enough wonga to build a prison and put them in it.

Murdering someone doesn't give you a Sporting Advantage though.

 

[Alex]

Punish the guilty. If someone commited murder in a football stadium you would punish the murderer. In football if an owner commits fraud the players and supporters are punished. The players will just move on to other clubs. The supporters get shafted as usual. Fine the money people enough wonga to build a prison and put them in it.

But the fine means nothing if you have a bottomless pit of money. There has to be sporting sanctions otherwise Newcastle will be at it immediately.

 

[hobbsy]

But the fine means nothing if you have a bottomless pit of money. There has to be sporting sanctions otherwise Newcastle will be at it immediately.

There are plenty who are comparing it to Ferguson at United and spending loads of money and then saying 'if the rules were in place then United wouldn't have been able to do it'.

 

[GuyBee]

Suggest ...in addition to above sanctions ..Oasis need to do freebee football stadium tours next summer.

What have the rest of us done wrong to deserve this?

 

[birdy67]

How about a 300 point fine, starting now.
So they're on -285, the rest of the points they make this season still count. Say for example they finish on -220 points.
Relegated, but when they get promoted they start on -220 points and so on.


Sadistic, but i like it.

I think this but the negative points they have should continue until they've cleared them. So relegated this season and start on -220 next season in the Championship and if they manage to get 100 points they finish on -120 and start on that in league 1 the following season and so on. Just keep going until they've cleared the balance. That way no lower league teams have their potential space taken by City and the punishment is in line with the points deductions that both Everton and Notts Forest were given. Leicester's was a bit harsher but they created that for themselves by being dicks, so you could apply the same logic to City and give them even more than -300.

 

[Edmundo]

Murdering someone doesn't give you a Sporting Advantage though.

Unless you’re about to play Man City and you murder Erling Haaland.

 

[Nada Bee]

I think this but the negative points they have should continue until they've cleared them. So relegated this season and start on -220 next season in the Championship and if they manage to get 100 points they finish on -120 and start on that in league 1 the following season and so on. Just keep going until they've cleared the balance. That way no lower league teams have their potential space taken by City and the punishment is in line with the points deductions that both Everton and Notts Forest were given. Leicester's was a bit harsher but they created that for themselves by being dicks, so you could apply the same logic to City and give them even more than -300.

Cant do that as EPL and FL are separate. But means they get punished a lot and basically wont be able to get into europe for 7-8 years about their length of wrong doings....

 

[Vid]

Sporting sanctions doesn’t appear to stop this happening. Punishing the people responsible might. Strip personal assets, band directorships and chain them naked to the goalposts before every game while the opponents warm up.

 

[bostonhanwell]

Massive fine, which must come out of the club not an oil well. Cripple them financially for years. Relegation to L2 and remove all trophies. The fine must include every penny including false income and legitimate income they would not have received.

 

[BaildonBee]

It is hard to see how Man City can compete in the PL this season. They are a lame duck now. Fortunately they have won all of their games so far so you could remove them entirely without affecting the points of other clubs but obviously this is not going to happen immediately. Any punishment is going to resonate somewhere in our professional pyramid and there will be winners and losers. If they continue to compete with inevitable relegation hanging over them then what is their motivation to compete week in week out? The temptation might be to pick and choose when they try in games to disrupt the integrity of the PL and scupper their rivals. Maybe they field their reserves and just play their first team in the Champions League. It is a horrible mess.
I have no sympathy for the club but I do think at least one other club that has been distorting the market for the last 25 years has got off very lightly. Also fans of clubs that sold their stadiums and their women's teams to themselves cannot really take the moral high ground.
I repeat, what a mess.

 

[hobbsy]

. Also fans of clubs that sold their stadiums and their women's teams to themselves cannot really take the moral high ground.
I repeat, what a mess.

They found loopholes and exploited it, although morally wrong completely within the rules at the time.

City went out of their way to deliberately conceal to allow them to knowingly break the rules.