Yehor Yarmoliuk

Yehor Yarmoliuk

TadB said:
Whilst I cannot argue about the sentiments that you express so eloquently what currently happens when teams flood the box in the way Liverpool did today on numerous occasions is in my opinion very one sided in favour of the attacking side. If the attacking side overstep the mark, and commit a foul, the referee blows his whistle, the free kick is taken, and the game moves on. If the reverse occurs, and the defending team commits a foul then a penalty is awarded, and the game changes. Whilst it was not a penaly
decision today the principle remains, and the referee should have intervened long before the situation was allowed to develop as it did. This tactic of overloading the box is designed to achieve exactly what did today. This is cheating and referees should put a stop to it.
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I’m pretty sure I read something after the end of last season whereby they were going to put a stop to all the argy bargy in the penalty area before the corner is taken. I can’t see any change at all, in fact Liverpool yesterday took it to another level!
 

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Sandybee said:
I’m pretty sure I read something after the end of last season whereby they were going to put a stop to all the argy bargy in the penalty area before the corner is taken. I can’t see any change at all, in fact Liverpool yesterday took it to another level!
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This 100%. Looking at man not ball as Jacquet did is a punishable offence. You can see YY appealing to the ref, who did nothing. Rrfs are expressly instructed to crack down on this this season, Brooks did nothing. YY gets a red all day long, but Jacquet and possibly VD should gave got yellows too. Ref just views a VAR snip that provides no context.
 

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lanzabee said:
This 100%. Looking at man not ball as Jacquet did is a punishable offence. You can see YY appealing to the ref, who did nothing. Rrfs are expressly instructed to crack down on this this season, Brooks did nothing. YY gets a red all day long, but Jacquet and possibly VD should gave got yellows too. Ref just views a VAR snip that provides no context.
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If the ref had sorted out the mess beforehand during the corner, then Yarmo doesn't get baited.

Even at the point where the so-call headbutt took place, Yarmo was still appealing to the ref with arms up.
 

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FunkyZeus said:
If the ref had sorted out the mess beforehand during the corner, then Yarmo doesn't get baited.
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That was my view of it. I said at the time that we really missed Collins who A) would've got involved earlier with Jacquet's barging and B) been at the referee earlier, as captain, and more forcibly.
 

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Sandybee said:
I’m pretty sure I read something after the end of last season whereby they were going to put a stop to all the argy bargy in the penalty area before the corner is taken. I can’t see any change at all, in fact Liverpool yesterday took it to another level!
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They seem utterly incapable of following through on how they say laws are going to change or be interpreted. IMO, the biggest positive change they could make would be retrospective punishment for obvious cheating, by which I mean retrospective yellow and red cards. They have all the tools with VAR to do this during the match but don't use them.
 

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Sandybee said:
I’m pretty sure I read something after the end of last season whereby they were going to put a stop to all the argy bargy in the penalty area before the corner is taken. I can’t see any change at all, in fact Liverpool yesterday took it to another level!
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You've overlooked the fact that none of that applies to "Big" clubs.
 

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He's a young lad who made an error. We take on youngsters and develop them. The coaches will not need to tell him that he needs to control his emotions when under stress. I don't see this as an issue, but his sending off did make our task so much more difficult.
 

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If it was John McGinn last week against us we would’ve wanted a red. Would he have got one, of course not.

You can’t lose all perspective just because it’s our player and the Liverpool guy was on the wind up.
 

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JCMcBee said:
....have you actually seen what happened....he was defending himself from what he thought was an imminent attack from Jacquet...if BFC don't appeal this imo opinion THEY and not Jacquet are the cowards..... roll over FC.
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FREEDOM!
 

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100% a head but watching the MOTD angle.

Doesn’t have to hit the oppo on the face, Zidane anyone?
 

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Bridge Bee said:
If it was John McGinn last week against us we would’ve wanted a red. Would he have got one, of course not.

You can’t lose all perspective just because it’s our player and the Liverpool guy was on the wind up.
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The ref is not seeing the incident in perspective. YY gets red sure. But he should have taken action in the build up, or minimum yellow carded Jacquet for his offence too.
 

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maddogging said:
Yep, and I keep seeing about how we take the next step, and how f***ing ridiculous is it, that for us to make the next step, we need to up our sh*thousing and cheating ! This league is so f***ed
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Unfortunately, I think that if we start doing that, we will end up with more yellow cards for simulation than our opponents ever will.
 

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EarleyBee said:
the biggest positive change they could make would be retrospective punishment for obvious cheating, by which I mean retrospective yellow and red cards
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Completely agree. The idea that because a referee (or the VAR) is deemed to have seen an incident means that no further action can be taken later on is a nonsense.

Jacquet cheated yesterday and should be retrospectively punished for it.

Similarly, VAR errors should lead to corrective retrospective action. John Brooks decided that Gabriel deliberately head butting Haaland didn’t merit a review. This was wrong and once established it was wrong the appropriate course is a 3 match ban for violent conduct.
 

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This is where football ties itself in knots.

It plays absolute letter of the law in a few scenarios and then completely ignores its own rules for most of the game.

It should be letter of the law for everything or it should be common sense applied for everything.

Common sense shows basically nothing happened (and so, if anything, the Liverpool player who play acted should have been booked, and the game then continues! there’s even a slight pause whilst he thinks and decides to do it!).
 

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Just read Yehors long statement about it -must admit he made an old man close to tears
 

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LingfieldBee said:
If you’ve got a ex player in the Var room all day they are saying just have a word with the pair of them.
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I couldn't attend the game but on the stream I watched Steve Mcmanaman and Joe Cole reviewed the incident during half time break, they understood why a red was given but felt it was harsh, both agreed that correct course of action should have been a yellow card for both players.
 

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TorbayBee said:
Just read Yehors long statement about it -must admit he made an old man close to tears
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If it's the one I'm thinking off, it's completely false. The only comment from Yehor was his insta update.

There's a new Twitter fad of accounts posting long made up quotes. There's a Keith Andrews one from the same account which is b***ocks too. In Yehor's case, I doubt he knows enough English to make a statement that long.
 
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Beelieve! said:
His first mistake was he didn’t go down like wardley when he got shoulder barged by Jaqcuet

Naive play by YY
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On the one hand we are giving Jacquet grief and on the other suggesting Yarmo should have been more cute...

He made a stupid error and gave VAR a decision when we were in the ascendancy, but he's not the first and won't be the last player. He's got plenty of credit in the bank as long as he learns from it.

Particular shame at that time in the game as felt we would have come away with all 3 points especially given our subs bench.
 

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Untouchable said:
The referees should have the guts to conclude that notwithstanding any red card, that was an obvious simulation with intent to deceive the match officials.

He went down like he’d been caught by a sniper. Cheating pure and simple
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Yarmo never touched him.Send Jacquet to me,I will show him what a headbutt really feels like.Trust me he won't get up.
 

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Untouchable said:
I agree with your interpretation of the rules but you need to establish contact before you can determine whether it was negligible.

This was the announcement of the referee:

REF: “After review, the Brentford No.6 commits a headbutting action. The final decision is a red card”.

The ref does not say there was a headbutt. Only there was a head butting action. The latter is not a violent conduct offence.
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If you indicate that you were trying to head a ball you use a 'headbutting' action too.Will Brooks send people off for that too?
 

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Anyone notice the left back for them yesterday and his throws especially second half.

Both feet off the ground!!!!

Outstanding from the lino 🙄
 
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BeesManMax said:
I’m saying if you don’t think it’s a penalty your Brentford bias is warping reality and there’s no point discussing. He pushed his head into him with force. It was stupid and ruined the game for us
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Force.🤣🤣🤣 If you think that was force.🤣🤣🤣
 
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As with just about everything else during the game the underlying problem re the sending off was the ref's failure to do his job when Jacquet behaved like a thug.
 

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Will he miss the Sunderland game?or is it just league games he’s banned for
 

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JCMcBee said:
... it's funny bordering on sad...but some of you lot on here were making comparisons with this young fella and Terry Hurlock but a few days ago... Hurlock was an animal...a thug...he wasn't hard FFS...he was a coward....I saw him getting sent off for Rangers v Celtic at Parkhead...he wasn't a footballer FFS...he just kicked other players....a spoiler at best perhaps...you want to compare YY with Hurlock after what's happened today.... right you are.
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Can’t believe I have just read that.
 

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shaun said:
I was saying that as well! Looked like a basketball throw.
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They’re so busy counting to 5 the ref and assistants are not spotting foul throws. Watched the end of the Everton Chelsea game and pretty much ever throw Chelsea took on the right Acheapong lifted his foot
 

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brooks said:
As with just about everything else during the game the underlying problem re the sending off was the ref's failure to do his job when Jacquet behaved like a thug.
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Incredible amount of deflecting going on here. Make all the excuses you want but the underlying problem was YY allowing himself to be goaded into headbutting someone.
 

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cliffbee said:
Incredible amount of deflecting going on here. Make all the excuses you want but the underlying problem was YY allowing himself to be goaded into headbutting someone.
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The point is, Yarmoliuk probably wouldn't have done what he did if the ref had done his job. That's not condoning Yarmoliuk's action.
 

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brooks said:
The point is, Yarmoliuk probably wouldn't have done what he did if the ref had done his job. That's not condoning Yarmoliuk's action.
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It’s not just the ref who didn’t do his job, it was also YY unfortunately.
 

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Gee Bee said:
They’re so busy counting to 5 the ref and assistants are not spotting foul throws. Watched the end of the Everton Chelsea game and pretty much ever throw Chelsea took on the right Acheapong lifted his foot
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Another disaster of a rule. It seems you can take as long as you like to get to the ball, take a few seconds more to prepare then you get the visual cue and end up throwing on 1. Nobody is going to get pulled up when it's that easy to manipulate.
 

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brooks said:
The point is, Yarmoliuk probably wouldn't have done what he did if the ref had done his job. That's not condoning Yarmoliuk's action.
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Read what Andrews and Yarmoliuk said about this incident and you'll realise that isn't the point. Neither mentioned the actions or lack of actions of Jacquet or the ref. Andrews specifically said it's not about the officials it's about our player. Yarmoliuk took full responsibility. If only more supporters, and managers and players at other clubs, were similarly honest when they're in the wrong
 

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Les Beeavinu said:
Another disaster of a rule. It seems you can take as long as you like to get to the ball, take a few seconds more to prepare then you get the visual cue and end up throwing on 1. Nobody is going to get pulled up when it's that easy to manipulate.
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I would like to see a separate timekeeper with a stopwatch giving the paying public 90 minutes of football. The argument against is games with last much longer but Sky etc., who run the game , will pressure the officials into cutting down on time wasting because it will mess with the programming schedules.
 

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brooks said:
The point is, Yarmoliuk probably wouldn't have done what he did if the ref had done his job. That's not condoning Yarmoliuk's action.
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Refs are not able to stop it unless they stand in the 6 yard box with the players.It happens multiple times in nearly every game,they stop the action and speak to players but it continues immediately after they walk away.

It's up to VAR to spot it and point it out but we know that the VAR officials are often less than perfect as well so it comes down to the players self control and Yarmo had a brain fart.He didn't really make much contact but honestly if it had happened to one of ours,we'd be baying for blood.

Fans have helped bring us to this point in football by buying into all the cheating that goes on even though they know that most of the time it's all pretend WWE BS.

I regularly see the opposition players and our players over exaggerate how hurt they are and i get just as angry when we do it,it is ruining football.
 

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cliffbee said:
Read what Andrews and Yarmoliuk said about this incident and you'll realise that isn't the point. Neither mentioned the actions or lack of actions of Jacquet or the ref. Andrews specifically said it's not about the officials it's about our player. Yarmoliuk took full responsibility. If only more supporters, and managers and players at other clubs, were similarly honest when they're in the wrong
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Keith always makes the point of not commenting on things out of his control eg. incompetent officials. Yehor followed the same policy. Fortunately the paying public don't have to follow that policy and can call out cheating and inept officials.
 

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jonny c said:
On the one hand we are giving Jacquet grief and on the other suggesting Yarmo should have been more cute...

He made a stupid error and gave VAR a decision when we were in the ascendancy, but he's not the first and won't be the last player. He's got plenty of credit in the bank as long as he learns from it.

Particular shame at that time in the game as felt we would have come away with all 3 points especially given our subs bench.
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Ok. I will say it. I f***ing hate sh*t housery from anyone and was embarrsed with us at Wolves in our first premier league season as an example.

Just play the f***ing game. Thats what fans want to see. This is why we have VAR and there is so much pressure on refs and it has ruined the game.

The players who are doing this need to be held accountable but that train has left the station a long time ago.

As long as football has such a large amoint of money in it, we will never see matches played purely on sporting merit and it f***ing sucks.
 
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