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[Andrelux]

Give me Championship ....Prem is sh1te

If so, I'd love to carry on experiencing the sh1te that is the Premier League for many more years.
In time, I'd love to tear my hair out about the utter disaster that is the Champions League.

 

[Terrace Weeding]

Which is what Oliver originally did, it was VAR that intervened

That was on Atwell, and according to Sky Co commentator Thiago unleashed a forearm smash, obviously he's never seen Mick Manus. Showing my age.

 

[Paul_T]

Probably because it takes about an hour and a half to get a train.

Bonkers, we left ten minutes before the end and there were home fans sprinting for the trains. Then we had to wait 25 minutes and realised why. sh*t ground and sh*t result, spoilt an otherwise enjoyable weekend on the South Coast

 

[mhead bee]

Do you reckon there was a PGMOL board meeting at the start of August where everyone agreed "let's gun for Brentford so that we can rile up the GPG, just for fun?"

No I don’t, and I don’t know what part of my post could conceivable lead you to that conclusion.

I do however believe premier league teams have daily meetings on how to win games, and cheating and diving is certainly trained into the players. Knowing the refs are incompetent and if you elbow, push and kick, then wait for the slightest retaliation and go down the ref will dash over and punish the other team, namely us, because we don’t play like that. Sure, we go down in the area the same as everyone, but when was the last time one of our player consistently niggled one of the theirs before diving at the slightest touch back?

 

[The Corner Flag]

Watched it back a good few times now and I think the red was harsh. No context seemed to be taken into account. Brighton player leaned into Thiago and he was pushing him away. I’d argue no yellow, but given the on field decision was yellow that should have stood and var should have stayed out. Ruined what would have been a good game. holding them to 2 was a very good result imo, fair play lads onwards and upwards.

 

[Gee Bee]

That was on Atwell, and according to Sky Co commentator Thiago unleashed a forearm smash, obviously he's never seen Mick Manus. Showing my age.

Co com was ex Brighton player Upson

 

[middlesexbee]

We restricted a team who are on fire to 2. A wondergoal and a soft penalty.

It was tough and wasn’t pretty but that was a solid defensive display and we did well to keep the scoreline respectable.

What a sh*te mentality. We lost. We were awful. Why bother trying to win if we are happy with a loss?

 

[mhead bee]

Anyway, the old favourites are out in force tonight so checking out for now

 

[Sofasteve]

No I don’t, and I don’t know what part of my post could conceivable lead you to that conclusion.

I do however believe premier league teams have daily meetings on how to win games, and cheating and diving is certainly trained into the players. Knowing the refs are incompetent and if you elbow, push and kick, then wait for the slightest retaliation and go down the ref will dash over and punish the other team, namely us, because we don’t play like that. Sure, we go down in the area the same as everyone, but when was the last time one of our player consistently niggled one of the theirs before diving at the slightest touch back?

Maupay?

 

[HungryBee]

No I don’t, and I don’t know what part of my post could conceivable lead you to that conclusion.

I do however believe premier league teams have daily meetings on how to win games, and cheating and diving is certainly trained into the players. Knowing the refs are incompetent and if you elbow, push and kick, then wait for the slightest retaliation and go down the ref will dash over and punish the other team, namely us, because we don’t play like that. Sure, we go down in the area the same as everyone, but when was the last time one of our player consistently niggled one of the theirs before diving at the slightest touch back?

I understand what you're saying now but there's a flip side. Ultimately 1) we keep falling for the niggling and so far this season, don't seem to learn to keep our cool in those situations and 2) if the game is going that way like you say it is then maybe we should be trying to use it to our benefit as you suggest other teams are against us.

 

[Tudor bee]

That was on Atwell, and according to Sky Co commentator Thiago unleashed a forearm smash, obviously he's never seen Mick Manus. Showing my age.

Yeah that commentator was an absolute *****

 

[Phreebee]

Nathan brought some composure to the team, which is not something I ever thought I’d be writing.

 

[TadB]

Obviously not but if he’s shown the stills I’ve seen then it a clear red. Thiago didnt need to get VAR involved he’d won the foul.

You fail to mention the player who thrust his head in Thiego’s face. Does the Referee and VAR not have to take note of that. The Referee in the case of the Yarmulke Red took note of that as did VAR. However you wrap it up, the way this entire incident was dealt with was not fair play. It should have resulted in either two reds or yellows all round.

 

[Banana]

View: https://x.com/jonharland_/status/2119477311359832345?a=lCnWMmsyTNr5hF4EnUE&s=20

 

[Banana]

View: https://x.com/jonharland_/status/2119477650502885476?a=qchupmZnfDFVhIzYKa0&s=20

 

[Houghton Bee]

What a sh*te mentality. We lost. We were awful. Why bother trying to win if we are happy with a loss?

Doubt Yiggy went in to the game with that attitude, they're presumably just reflecting on what came to pass. Not everyone needs to be frothing at the mouth about it

 

[Paul_T]

Watched it back a good few times now and I think the red was harsh. No context seemed to be taken into account. Brighton player leaned into Thiago and he was pushing him away. I’d argue no yellow, but given the on field decision was yellow that should have stood and var should have stayed out. Ruined what would have been a good game. holding them to 2 was a very good result imo, fair play lads onwards and upwards.

Don't know if you missed it but he was pulling Igor's shirt in the first place, hence why he got frustrated. Right in front of Oliver but he didn't notice that somehow...

 

[pompeybee]

That is as maybe, the point is why was Thiego sent off, and not the player who instigate it by committing a foul (with assistance) , and then compounds it by adopting an aggressive stance thrusting his head within inches of Thiego’s face. Red for Brentford nothing for Brighton. That is not biase?

The Brighton player got a yellow.

 

[brentfordfc4ever]

View: https://x.com/jonharland_/status/2119477311359832345?a=lCnWMmsyTNr5hF4EnUE&s=20

We've fallen into the trap twice basically

 

[North London Bee]

He didn’t do it against Liverpool, he never touched their bloke and he went down holding his face

He still
did this stupid double handed push.

 

[maddogging]

View: https://x.com/jonharland_/status/2119477650502885476?a=qchupmZnfDFVhIzYKa0&s=20

Would suggest KLP doesn’t start the next game then

 

[taxi driver]

I was surprised that Keith changed the back 4 off the back of one of, if not our best defensive display.

Thiago was a stupid idiot and deserved everything he got. This is even more depressing considering Yarmo's mistake against Liverpool.

KLP unable to defend properly again which hints at a technical failing and potentially a lack of coaching. He could just be stupid too

There seems not too much wrong that a bit of discipline and better decision making won't resolve but f*** me these individual errors are hurting us.

 

[Banana]

Don't know if you missed it but he was pulling Igor's shirt in the first place, hence why he got frustrated. Right in front of Oliver but he didn't notice that somehow...

Oliver did notice it that is why he gave a free kick.

 

[Poolieboydave]

KA seems to want to find a spot for Hickey and KLP, but disrupting the Midfield where Brighton are strongest was not the best call. 5 at back out of possession and KLP inside when we had it, just gave them more space to dictate. YY would have been a better choice to start to try and win more ball and close space.

Was a horrendous tactical mess. A rare blip from Andrew’s but the idea that KLP can be #10 in possession and a LWB out of it was madness. Too much of a gap and we just gave up so much space in midfield. I get not wanting to put Yarmo straight back in to avoid rewarding stupidity, but it really harmed us.

 

[Yiggy]

What a sh*te mentality. We lost. We were awful. Why bother trying to win if we are happy with a loss?

I think it’s just the best we can take from it. They’ve won their last 4 games 14-0.

Of course I wanted us to win. It was a disappointing day out but it’s not a disaster. Tough run of games coming up though. I fear we may end up in the bottom half by the end.

 

[Gee Bee]

You fail to mention the player who thrust his head in Thiego’s face. Does the Referee and VAR not have to take note of that. The Referee in the case of the Yarmulke Red took note of that as did VAR. However you wrap it up, the way this entire incident was dealt with was not fair play. It should have resulted in either two reds or yellows all round.

You fail to mention that none of the handbags happen if Thiago just accepts getting the foul given to him. That’s the point

 

[aawharris]

Surprised to see many say it wasn’t a red card, can never put ur hand up like that.

You can if you push somebody in the chest/shoulder which has been proven this season already.
The fact his arm slipped off his should is what done him, but officials will never take that into account

 

[brentfordfc4ever]

You can if you push somebody in the chest/shoulder which has been proven this season already.
The fact his arm slipped off his should is what done him, but officials will never take that into account

I'm with you but they all know what happens if you do what he did.

He needs to take his medicine

 

[TadB]

You fail to mention that none of the handbags happen if Thiago just accepts getting the foul given to him. That’s the point

You fail to mention the player thrusting his head into Thiego’s face. Is Thiego the only one who has to meekly accept what has happened. Indeed I am not sure he even had the opportunity to do so. Why are you defending such aggressive behaviour by the Brighton?

 

[Hippobee]

You fail to mention that none of the handbags happen if Thiago just accepts getting the foul given to him. That’s the point

Absolutely.

Thiago doesn't retaliate and the situation is that their bloke gets a yellow and needs to be careful. Igor can then put him under more pressure and try and get a 2nd yellow.

Instead, he lost his composure and that was that.

 

[LostBee]

What a sh*te mentality. We lost. We were awful. Why bother trying to win if we are happy with a loss?

You are the one showing the sh*te mentality pal….

 

[Kingston Bee]

We can argue all day about the merits of the sending off, but we have to start getting smarter. We have given the officials a decision to make, once this happens its in the lap of the gods. Rightly or wrongly nothing is going to change, we have to play the game. At the point of contact Thiago has to go down, hate myself saying that but otherwise the end result stays the same. I posted on here after the Liverpool game that football has had it, it truly has, as confirmed each week. I dont even get mad anymore.

 

[alexcavell]

I'm not comfortable with the notion that a reactive arm movement from Thiago against an aggressor's action which accidentally makes contact with the face results in a worse punishment than that for the aggressor who started the whole thing. That doesn't seem like a just outcome. Let alone the fact we have to play 3 games (plus today) without Thiago now.

Contact with the face should not be judged like the ball crossing the line. It's not a black-and-white situation - there is a context to the incident that must be considered in a referee's decision, or we end up with perpertrators & cheats prospering and games being ruined.

I don't think Thiago has let us down or done anything stupid at all. He's simply tried to (and I would argue should be entitled to) defend himself in a proportionate manner, in the same way as Yarmoliuk did. If the rules say otherwise then they need to be reviewed, but there is something to be said for the consistency of refereeing too.

 

[Sofasteve]

You can if you push somebody in the chest/shoulder which has been proven this season already.
The fact his arm slipped off his should is what done him, but officials will never take that into account

They'll possibly take the stance that the slip is deliberate. Safer not to get involved in the first place. What advantage do we get by throwing an arm up against the opposition when the ball is not in play?

 

[marvelous007]

You fail to mention that none of the handbags happen if Thiago just accepts getting the foul given to him. That’s the point

Maybe next time, Thiago fallls over like he has been shot by a sniper.....

Serouosly, i do also think teams are winding us up and we are just the fall guys....

 

[Jago16]

Both decisions were correct, and we were being given a footballing lesson at 11 v 11 anyway. Brighton are a very impressive team with some unimpressive and pathetic individuals.

We have a bit of a discipline issue. Don’t know why but needs sorting.

And I think we are owed an explanation why Madueke last week was allowed to stay on because Macallister was deemed to have started it, but today Thiago was sent off, on review no less despite Oliver looking straight at it, when he had been fouled and then barged in the chest.

Thiago is more blameworthy for not learning from the Yarmo incident. KLP needs to be given another role at corners because he pulls and grapples someone twice his size every week

 

[aawharris]

They'll possibly take the stance that the slip is deliberate. Safer not to get involved in the first place. What advantage do we get by throwing an arm up against the opposition when the ball is not in play?

Trying to get an utter leech off your back?

 

[Gee Bee]

You fail to mention the player thrusting his head into Thiego’s face. Is Thiego the only one who has to meekly accept what has happened. Indeed I am not sure he even had the opportunity to do so. Why are you defending such aggressive behaviour by the Brighton?

I’m not defending anything, the fouls given to us before anything else occurs. I do however think two yellows on original call was right one. Attwell thought not and Oliver should have still gone with his original call too. However he didn’t and I also believe had the same happened against us we’d be calling for a red. Funny old game

 

[brentford born & bred]

Years ago I saw a graffiti in Brighton....

"If you think the bottoms fallen out of your world drink Harveys. Then the world will...."

Probably a clueless fizzy lager drinker.

 

[ladbroke]

On these so called violet conduct red card reviews and even other reds, I really wish they'd show a few seconds before leading to the supposed event. All they done was show a still and a small segment.
Oliver barely had a look and straight away went red.

 

[marvelous007]

On these so called violet conduct red card reviews and even other reds, I really wish they'd show a few seconds before leading to the supposed event. All they done was show a still and a small segment.
Oliver barely had a look and straight away went red.

What does voilent condict actually mean? Surely, their pkayer delibertly pushing him first would also be voilent conduct too?.

 

[ladbroke]

What does voilent condict actually mean? Surely, their pkayer delibertly pushing him first would also be voilent conduct too?.

Some refs think that too.

In this instance, personally, 2 yellows were perfectly fine. Was being manhandled. And in his defence he never usually gets the foul so im surprised at this.
But they both have a coming together. Seen plenty of them punished with yellows.
Just don't see how Oliver can come to that decision based on 2 seconds.
And its also got to be clear and obvious.
Are you saying that our supposed best referee didn't see any of that in real time and didn't judge that to be a red at the time.

 

[Beecareful]

After several years of careful consideration, I believe the Premier League is full of gobbing, overpaid babies who roll around mortally wounded at the slightest brush and is refereed by incompetents with rather large egos.
I also think the "entertainment" on offer is not worth the SKY subscription...

I must say that rugby is beginning to get more of my TV time.

 

[Sandybee]

11 v 11 they were the better side and should have been 2 up before the “soft” sending off. We gave away the midfield out of possession with only 2 players in that area though and not sure you can afford to do that against a team like Brighton. Thiago was getting involved with another player beforehand so it was looking on the cards for a yellow minimum for him.

We looked better 10 v 11 though and Keith was quite ambitious with the subs. Thiago could potentially be looking at some time on the bench when he comes back. The one shot he had when was through with a chance to lob the keeper was pretty tepid.

I suppose it depends on whether we score a few without him, but he certainly hasn’t done himself any favours today.

 

[Sofasteve]

Trying to get an utter leech off your back?

Or could have laughed at him or hit the deck and stayed on the pitch and scored the winning goal(s)?
I don't think it was a red card by the way, but it's a very risky response mate.

 

[LostBee]

What has football become?

It’s just an absolutely unwatchable cheat fest from start to finish.

 

[aawharris]

Or could have laughed at him or hit the deck and stayed on the pitch and scored the winning goal(s)?
I don't think it was a red card by the way, but it's a very risky response mate.

As i have said previously, its time for us to cheat and sh*thouse our way through games now.
Provoke players, dive, initiate contact and collapse like we have been shot, stay there for minutes on end.
Im f***ing sick of the sh*t this season, so we may as well do it too, because we are being left behind.

 

[mhead bee]

He still
did this stupid double handed push.

No he didn’t, it was one hand and it wasn’t a push

 

[IslandBee]

I thought Thiago was going as soon as I saw it. Might have been soft but you run that risk if you get your hands anywhere near an opponent's face.

I had anyway hated the way we started and doubted a back five would have worked. We'll never know now.

Have to say I'm not enjoying it much right now. Yeah, 'glory days' and all that, better than Barrow away etc. But it doesn't feel at the moment that they'll be very much progressive football to watch from us this season. Hope I'm wrong!!

 

[marvelous007]

Im pleased I dont have to go there again this season, ground is great stadium but in middle no where like Readings and MK dons. Public transport is awful with upto 90 mins to get back to town centre!. (I left on 94 mins).

Food and drink is expensive, £10.50 a burger and £7.70 a beer. Fans are ok people but no atmosphere in the ground at all, even when they scored the 2nd!.